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Posted 9/7/17 , edited 9/7/17
You know how, among the numerous problems with the Death Note movie on Netflix, one of them was blatantly Americanizing the living crap out of Death Note, from the setting to the characters?

Every time I look at this stuff, and it's like how Haim Saban took Kyouryu Sentai Zyuranger, stripped out its Japanese identity, and replaced it with Americanized bull crap in the form of Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers.

I mean, I'm sure that there are people out there who have fond memories of Power Rangers when they were kids. And, I watched and enjoyed the series myself when I was a kid, as well. But as an adult, I would have found it to be a direct insult to Japan and its culture, because all the things that made Zyuranger and Super Sentai in-general uniquely Japanese had to replaced with everything that is wrong with our culture, just to make it more comfortably consumable to a Western audience.

Literally, how can prehistoric animals match with 90's era teens with attitude, if they actually match better with prehistoric magical knights? Why would Witch Bandora have some form of humanity, yet Rita Repulsa be such an outright one-dimensional bad-guy? Wouldn't Burai's death via malfunctioning cryogenic stasis pod actually be worse than Tommy simply losing his powers? And why would Tommy work with Rita Repulsa, when I don't remember Burai siding with anybody until later one, when he sided with his younger brother, Geki, and the other Zyurangers? And why give the African American a black costume and the Vietnamese woman a yellow costume? And what is up with that loud, obnoxious, ow-the-edge level rock theme song? And weren't there fifteen other Super Sentai long before Zyuranger was introduced, with the first dating back to 1975!?

You see what I'm talking about? If people despise the Netflix Death Note movie's blatant Americanization and casual disregard for the original manga's Japanese heritage, then why don't they despise Power Rangers for the exact same reason?
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Perhaps they consider Deathnote bad Americanization, versus considering all Americanization bad? Or they do not care anymore about a series from the 90s?

A bad/loose adaptation does not make for a bad standalone I suppose. Iunno.
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I thought it was fun. They condensed an entire series into a 100 minute feature, of course it's going to fall short in character development. Besides where are all these fantastic Japanese produced live action versions of anime?
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just your typical Emo of the teens, Hollywood is bad about that, to weaken the characters, make them nearly to borderline pathetic. Sure I'm a big time fan of Power Rangers, but my goodness if I could slap these kids that sure would be nice. I have to deal with this enough, I don't want to deal with it in movies as well. and I'm sorry you feel the desire to have people connect with characters but my goodness, at least give them some backbone or something sheesh!

psst there was a recent live action Power Rangers movie, it was more "mature" in nature and darker, the mech was more realistic and the characters weren't so far in left field, but here comes the emo teen drama. I actually miss seeing the teen drama from the 90s stuff, at least that teen drama wasn't so emo. give me Buffy teen drama any day, because this modern stuff is an insult to my intelligence.

why yes I still watch power rangers to this day, regardless of location or name, I tend to watch it in Japanese, because, like a lot of things dubbed, something is lost in translation.
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I don't think it's the westernization that most people are complaining about. It was very clear from the beginning that the Netflix movie was never intended to be a direct adaptation of the Death Note manga/anime. It was just another version of the story. Everywhere I look, I see hardly anyone saying that it's a bad thing that the movie takes place in America, Light isn't Japanese, L is black, etc. It's Nat Wolff's poor acting, awful pacing, weak writing, and weak characterization that everyone's upset about.

I haven't watched the movie, but every review I've seen appears to be in agreement that Light Turner was a terrible protagonist who had nothing in common with Light Yagami in terms of personality, intelligence, and charisma. There was nothing entertaining about him. Mia was more of the brains of the team than Light and she apparently cared more about the Death Note itself than she cared about Light, which sounds really odd. The movie was only 100 minutes so I assume the reason they gave Mia this role and downplayed Light's intelligence and ambitions was because they couldn't fit Misa's storyline about having her own Death Note and having Rem with her. L was just as quirky and confident as the original L, but he was too emotional at times and came across as somewhat deranged. Having L walk around in the open with barely any effort to conceal his identity was also really stupid and the ending that implies something that L did completely ruins his character by making him look just as bad as Light.

Again, this is all what I've gathered from the trailer, clips, and reviews since I'm not going to bother watching this train wreck. These are all flaws that everybody who's watched the movie have all pointed out. The only positive thing about this movie that everyone agrees on is that Willem Dafoe's portrayal of Ryuk was good.

Unlike something like DBZ, Death Note is the kind of story that can honestly be moved to almost any location without feeling too out of place. It's the execution that they messed up.
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Again, this is all what I've gathered from the trailer, clips, and reviews since I'm not going to bother watching this train wreck. These are all flaws that everybody who's watched the movie have all pointed out. The only positive thing about this movie that everyone agrees on is that Willem Dafoe's portrayal of Ryuk was good.


I guess you can say that for an actor playing a Shinigami, Willem Dafoe....killed it.

I can agree in particular with the location. Japan did not seem quite that important, now that I think about it. Any teenager like Light could have been just as dangerous and wily.
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I haven't seen the movie but don't most of japan's live action movies from an anime series always fall short? it's hard to adapt an anime into a movie unless you have like a transformer type budget nonetheless i'm not it is not bad as people make it out to be on the other hand japan did make two successful death note movies.

did the american version fall short of the japanese made movies?
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PhantomGundam wrote:

I don't think it's the westernization that most people are complaining about. It was very clear from the beginning that the Netflix movie was never intended to be a direct adaptation of the Death Note manga/anime. It was just another version of the story. Everywhere I look, I see hardly anyone saying that it's a bad thing that the movie takes place in America, Light isn't Japanese, L is black, etc. It's Nat Wolff's poor acting, awful pacing, weak writing, and weak characterization that everyone's upset about.

I haven't watched the movie, but every review I've seen appears to be in agreement that Light Turner was a terrible protagonist who had nothing in common with Light Yagami in terms of personality, intelligence, and charisma. There was nothing entertaining about him. Mia was more of the brains of the team than Light and she apparently cared more about the Death Note itself than she cared about Light, which sounds really odd. The movie was only 100 minutes so I assume the reason they gave Mia this role and downplayed Light's intelligence and ambitions was because they couldn't fit Misa's storyline about having her own Death Note and having Rem with her. L was just as quirky and confident as the original L, but he was too emotional at times and came across as somewhat deranged. Having L walk around in the open with barely any effort to conceal his identity was also really stupid and the ending that implies something that L did completely ruins his character by making him look just as bad as Light.

Again, this is all what I've gathered from the trailer, clips, and reviews since I'm not going to bother watching this train wreck. These are all flaws that everybody who's watched the movie have all pointed out. The only positive thing about this movie that everyone agrees on is that Willem Dafoe's portrayal of Ryuk was good.

Unlike something like DBZ, Death Note is the kind of story that can honestly be moved to almost any location without feeling too out of place. It's the execution that they messed up.


I'm in total agreement with you. I never thought the story of Death Note felt distinctly Japanese, so I had no problem with them moving the setting to America and making most of the characters white. It's a story about the nature of morality, and that really works in any culture which is likely why Death Note was such a WORLD WIDE hit when it was airing.

The big problem of this movie isn't the white washing. Seriously, I could not give LESS craps that they made Light white. What really ruined this movie was the director's complete lack of awareness of what made the original so appealing to such a broad audience. Instead of making the movie a battle of wits between two opposing ideologies, he turned it into some crappy love story horror movie garbage. It might be the most dumbed down adaptation of anything I've ever seen before and, honestly, it's insulting to the source material.

That said, I did enjoy Kieth Stanfield's portrayal of L. Him and Willem Dafoe were the only highlights in an otherwise terrible movie.
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Oh shit I just remembered I watched this but I was really high.

It was bad. So bad. What concerns me most is that there might be a sequel since it wasn't anything like the manga or anime and so much is missing.

ALSO WHY THE FK IS IT IN AUSTRALIA? WHY IS LIGHT'S LAST NAME TURNER? WHY IS IT IN ENGLISH? WHY IS L BLACK? Etcetc.

Deathnote was turned into a comedy...like...it's been a while since I watched the series but from what I remember it was serious and a little dark. This move, however, was like the complete opposite. It was a complete joke.


So bad.
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Finally a poor adaptation that I don't have to care about because I thought the original was absolutely terrible as well so I had no interest in watching the western live action version in the first place.
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Japan had 4 live-action death note movies. 4. We didn't need another direct anime-to-movie adaptation. This was a retelling of the story and was never sold as anything else. And as far as the film went, I enjoyed it pretty well. For a 100 minute condensation of the series, it had some great high notes and tried, in it's own way, to keep the characters true to the original while still making them believable and relatable.

Light was instantly pegged as a smart kid, frustrated with a broken justice system. No, he wasn't this world-class child prodigy like he was in the source material, but the original Light feels way too superhuman. They had to tone him down to make him believable, as American audiences generally want flawed, relatable characters.

I thought L was, at least in the beginning, the closest to his source material. Absolutely loved how they pegged his mannerisms about perfectly, whether it was hiding his face, his strange posture, or his love of candy. He did fall apart about halfway through, but that's more due to a fast-moving script and the need to create a climax.

Honestly, Mia (see Misa) was the farthest from the source material. In the movie she was just an evil, selfish girl who lacked any higher purpose or conscience. But she provided a sounding board for Light as well as a love interest, and lord knows you can't have a movie in America without romance shoehorned in. However she did, IMO, kinda become the *SPOILER ALERT* main antagonist in the end.

But regardless of my own personal view of the movie, the biggest aspect is that my wife (who does not watch anime or read manga) loved it, as did most people who were unfamiliar with the source material. Netflix succeeded in taking a material that normally would only appeal to a small niche, and expanded it to appeal to a much larger audience. That's a success no matter how you look at it.
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awful.

i get netflix accounts for free and i feel ripped off =/
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I actually enjoyed the DN movie.

I went in already expecting it to not be DN.

And it wasn't outside the book and Ryuk.

That said it had great music. Awesome cinematography. And I actually liked the cast.

That said it was trash, but enjoyable trash.
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No this movie was honestly awful... Whitewashed with the naked brothers band...

These guys on youtube did a pretty decent fan version. Its not a feature like the Akira one, but it beats the hell out of the netflix one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEywWWnbvR4&t=2s
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