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Posted 9/19/17
Some wounds just never heal. But this one is taking things to the extreme with the $1 trilliion payment for all the havoc and destruction by the Nazis. Things are blown quite out of proportion to have these demands for something that happened many decades ago. I'm not quite sure what to make of this, but that certainly is eye-raising. Next time on Dragon Ball Z...
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Posted 9/19/17

Bakaneer wrote:

Some wounds just never heal. But this one is taking things to the extreme with the $1 trilliion payment for all the havoc and destruction by the Nazis. Things are blown quite out of proportion to have these demands for something that happened many decades ago. I'm not quite sure what to make of this, but that certainly is eye-raising. Next time on Dragon Ball Z...


Originally the Soviets declined payment when they needed help rebuilding. Now I dont think o they care outside of telling Germany to go fuck itself when they give Poland demands.
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Posted 9/19/17

Bakaneer wrote:

Some wounds just never heal. But this one is taking things to the extreme with the $1 trilliion payment for all the havoc and destruction by the Nazis. Things are blown quite out of proportion to have these demands for something that happened many decades ago. I'm not quite sure what to make of this, but that certainly is eye-raising. Next time on Dragon Ball Z...


To be honest, I don't think they expect the 1t dollars. In my eyes they are "Trying" to give Germany the middle finger. Instead, it just comes across as a child throwing a tantrum.

At least that is what I see.
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Posted 9/20/17

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Bakaneer wrote:

Some wounds just never heal. But this one is taking things to the extreme with the $1 trilliion payment for all the havoc and destruction by the Nazis. Things are blown quite out of proportion to have these demands for something that happened many decades ago. I'm not quite sure what to make of this, but that certainly is eye-raising. Next time on Dragon Ball Z...


To be honest, I don't think they expect the 1t dollars. In my eyes they are "Trying" to give Germany the middle finger. Instead, it just comes across as a child throwing a tantrum.

At least that is what I see.


a country is upset other countries is trying to force it to do something they know is harmful for it. Yeah I don't think its childish.. It seems quite rational from this ones point of view. I think Germany and the EU are the childish ones in this respect.
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I don't think anyone is being childish. It's just politics and competing interests/opinions. I love it when people try to break down international politics like it's some high school drama.
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Me too!
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Poland and Germany settled in the 90s. End of story. Independent.co.uk is a shit, delusional source.
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Posted 9/25/17
These political posts are hilarious.
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Lol, I love how the Poles are getting so based.
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Bakaneer wrote:

Some wounds just never heal. But this one is taking things to the extreme with the $1 trilliion payment for all the havoc and destruction by the Nazis. Things are blown quite out of proportion to have these demands for something that happened many decades ago. I'm not quite sure what to make of this, but that certainly is eye-raising. Next time on Dragon Ball Z...


I have Polish relatives who died in German camps. There were as many or more Slavs killed in the camps as Jews. Germany has rightly been paying reparations for that. The Soviet Empire's deal with Germany is BS, and Germany should pay up. It's the right thing to do.
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Posted 9/25/17 , edited 9/25/17
Germany doesn't need to pay anything more than it already has for the past 60-ish years. Germany has been a major influence of the growing economy of a lot of European countries, and the EU has helped/boosted the economy of many of the less wealthy nations. Poland is going through a right-wing(to the extreme in some parts) phase in their politics as a response to the terrorist threats posed by ISIS etc. That is the major reason for why the populist government refuses to let in refugees. The problem with this is that the EU has a migrant crisis going on, there are simply too many refugees seeking asylum in Europe, and one of the ways to deal with that is to resettle them across EU countries, giving a quota to each so that everyone contributes and no one nation is left with the entire burden.

The EU can't kick out a member state because there is no defined process for it. Poland could be chastised, though, if they do not adhere to EU regulations. Poland could choose to leave the EU as a protest, but that would not be wise, as no doubt the EU would make an example of them, as they now do with the UK.

And what did being an American have anything to do with this? Is it that "Germany is evil hurr durr" stuff?
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Posted 9/25/17 , edited 9/25/17
UPDATE: Official: There will be no fines and no charges for Poland and Hungary for not taking any "refugees"

The deadline for implementation by the Member States of the European Union of obligations regarding the relocation of refugees is slowly coming to an end. It turns out that virtually none of the countries has adopted as many immigrants as it has declared, and on September 26 the deadline contained in the document on relocation.

For a long time the leading politicians of the European Union are increasingly opposed to Poland. One of the main pretext is refusal to accept immigrants to Poland. The Polish government consistently refuses to accept the refugee quoted by the previous government.

It turns out, however, that virtually none of the states has accepted the amount declared by them. This applies not only to countries such as Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary but also to Germany and France, for example. According to the RMF FM radio, Poland has won a battle against the European Union. There will be no penalties for not accepting immigrants who are to be distributed to all Member States under the so- relocation mechanism.

Earlier, in a conversation with RMF FM journalist Katarzyna Szymańska-Borginon, diplomats in Brussels acknowledged that Poland was no longer threatened by the fact that until now she has not accepted a single refugee from the assigned amount of almost 7 thousand. There will be no sanctions or lawsuits to the EU Court of Justice. What's more, both Jean Claude-Juncker and Angela Merkel are starting to make mistakes.

As it turns out the reason for changing the decision is quite prosaic and compromising for the European Commission. Not only did Poland not fulfill its immigration obligations. As it turns out, no EU Member State has ever fully implemented it. After all, the Commission will not prosecute all EU countries. Says one of the RMF radio talkers.

The idea of ​​penalties for not accepting immigrants is likely to fall. They were to amount to as much as 250 thousand. euro for one unaccounted person. So far, 22 states have so far said that there is no such punishment. Interestingly, some positions are negative because they think the amount is ... too low.

According to Konrad Szymanski, deputy minister of the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the European Commission should withdraw the draft of the new asylum law in its entirety. It is in this there is a mechanism of obligatory division of immigrants and sanctions are presented for failing to fulfill these obligations.


The Hungarian Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, recently spoke positively of Poland recently. He consistently provides solidarity with our country. - The Union can not allow itself to be unreasonable in initiating legal proceedings or threatening to start a procedure. The EU's allegations against Poland are political in nature, he said.

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