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I mean she did technically get more votes.


Fraudulent votes.


Not proven. Look Trump won what mattered. Hillary lost, all according to the rules of the game. It doesn't make Trump any less president to loose the popular vote, or have smaller crowds that Obama.

Hillary just didn't/doesn't understand that we elect feelings not content. Trump got elected because people somehow believe he will "Make America Great Again" Which contains no actual policy. Obama was "Change" and "Hope: Neither are policy. Bush was "Compassionate Conservatism" again not policy, just feelings. Democrats need to just move on from Hillary, she doesn't bring anything to a national stage that's going to resonate with voters. Hillary if she really wants to do them a favor needs to get out of the public light, just like she had been doing, this book is going to do nothing for her legacy.


If your voter fraud is easy to detect then your doing it wrong.

Trump also worked like crazy having 3 rallies a day for about 2 weeks. Hillary was having Bill, Bernie, and Joe campaign for her with pathetic crowd sizes. Her main slogan was that she was a woman and we support her. It wasn't even a vague promise or even something inspirational.

I dont think she will get out of the spot light so easily. No one wants her but the Clinton's have a LOT of power and its hard to stop someone like that.

https://www.cato.org/blog/was-hillary-clinton-fired-nixon-impeachment-inquiry
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I just love it that, after so much effort she put into insulting potential voters, Hilary wonders why she didn't win by a landslide.


The fact that she's still ASKING, is one good reason why even Democrats didn't vote for her.

The builders of brick walls were impenetrable on both sides of the ticket.
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Hillary just didn't/doesn't understand that we elect feelings not content. Trump got elected because people somehow believe he will "Make America Great Again" Which contains no actual policy. Obama was "Change" and "Hope: Neither are policy. Bush was "Compassionate Conservatism" again not policy, just feelings. Democrats need to just move on from Hillary, she doesn't bring anything to a national stage that's going to resonate with voters. Hillary if she really wants to do them a favor needs to get out of the public light, just like she had been doing, this book is going to do nothing for her legacy.


Well, if you want to get into ABSOLUTE technicalities, it just ends up throwing more mysterious parallels on the whole Trump = Nixon storyline:

Nixon in '68 was elected by a huge landslide...They hated him, but they loved him that year.
Why? This was around the same time of Kent State, and while people were shaking their heads at the tragedy of college antiwar protestors gunned down by National Guards, there was an unspoken sigh of karmic relief among the mainstream public that someone had finally "gotten what they had coming".
Protest groups were still riding the high of the '64 Civil Rights Movement, that taught young people how to travel the country and organize protests, and now parents with their nice peaceful suburban kids going to Berkeley and Harvard were afraid they were going to be swept up into the bad-company of anti-Vietnam "East coast troublemakers" training them in how to occupy the dean's office or blow up the ROTC building.

And then came the Convention season of '68: The Miami Republican convention had demonstration riots outside, and the Chicago Democratic convention had riots outside AND inside, and another charismatically inspiring Kennedy had been shot down in the process. The election was becoming an unholy mess.
Richard Nixon, with a little iconic help from speechwriter Pat Buchanan, declared that the, quote, "Silent Majority" had grown tired of assassinations and protests in the streets, and being told that their country, army, and suburban lifestyle were the monsters of the world, and wanted leadership that would bring their lives back to normal again.
Beat that, Hubert Humphrey.

So: How does this tie into Trump?
Listen to your average Trump supporter, who doesn't have anything really to brag about since November '16, and only talks about the Wall if they're trolling.
The Win--"Get over it, he WON, so there!...Gonna cry now, libtard babies?"--is seen not as some dispute over the popular vote vs. the electoral vote, but as some symbolic belief that the country had finally risen up to shut up the Mythical SJW's, and wish those whiny attention-struck public nuisances away into the cornfield for good, while Fearless Leader would fix up all the damage to our country that they had caused.

TL;DR version: The Chicago Riots won Nixon the '68 presidency, and Black Lives Matter handed Trump the White House keys on a silver platter.
It wasn't anything that he really did, you know, since we know by now he can't really do anything, period.
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TL;DR version: The Chicago Riots won Nixon the '68 presidency, and Black Lives Matter handed Trump the White House keys on a silver platter.
It wasn't anything that he really did, you know, since we know by now he can't really do anything, period.


Change that to "the Obama presidency" handed Trump the White House keys and you're on the mark. BLM is a tiny blip in the general white nationalist narrative that demographic change had to be arrested. Ta-Nehisi Coates' recent book excerpt explored this aspect of the election in the Atlantic. Trump won practically every single demographic of white voters... I think he may have lost 18-25, maybe? And only women? I don't remember, but it was pretty staggering that the main indicator of a voter's support for Trump was whether or not they were white.

Clinton was a mediocre candidate, but it's important not to underestimate her. It took a particular permutation of electoral votes for Trump to win, and generally speaking, it's a statistical anomaly to win the electoral vote while losing the popular vote by 3 million votes. It's not completely improbable (hell, it happened, right?), but it wouldn't surprise me if it never happened again. The biggest issue Clinton had was that she was a terrific foil for a racialist campaign. She was running against an openly racialist candidate after having been the bogeywoman for the GOP for over two decades. So there was the right confluence of weaknesses in her narrative, white revanchism, and established bonafides as the Democrat every Republican loves to hate. On top of that, as FiveThirtyEight likes to point out, if Comey's letter didn't come out 8 days before the election, Trump's margin of victory never appears. Comey got fired anyway - Obama should have fired him in July, but he was worried about the mere appearance of obstructing justice. Pretty ironic, eh?

The GOP got what it paid for, though. 9 months in with no major legislative achievements in spite of having every branch of the government, mostly because his administration can't even push through routine appointments and fill necessary bureaucratic positions. On top of that, Bannon is essentially threatening to create a third party within the GOP. Faustian bargain, for sure, and demographically 2020 is even less forgiving than 2016. If he remains this unpopular, they may be faced with a Warren, Harris, or Sanders in 2020, with no Comey-type event to salvage the election.

I say all this as a person who would've been left without insurance if the ACA repeal had passed, so inasmuch as I have a dog in this fight, it's that Republicans want to kill me and Democrats are moving toward a healthcare system that doesn't keep me at the edge of bankruptcy. I should probably turn Japanophile and beg the Emperor to let me in, so I don't have to worry month-to-month if Ryan and McConnell will make me uninsurable.
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I don't get what's so great about listening to her saying how it's everyone's fault except hers.
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, but it was pretty staggering that the main indicator of a voter's support for Trump was whether or not they were white.

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Probably because some wypipo got tired of white guilt propaganda that is mainly pushed by white liberals (including Hillary) and shit like pic related




But I'm sure the majority that voted either didn't care or wasn't aware of most of that. They just liked Trump's policies. And his campaign strategy was pretty damn slick.




with no Comey-type event to salvage the election.


Yes because THAT is what made Hillary lose and 'salvaged' the election for Trump. Not Hillary's own doings, anything but that. Totally not her laughing at a 12 year old rape victim whose rapist she defended. Definitely not the shady shit in Haiti and Africa done by her foundation and family.

Back on topic about the book, somebody made a parody of it and its hilarious.



EDIT:
Holy shit, the real thing is even better


IT WAS HER TURN!
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I think that Putin had been plotting revenge against Clinton for years:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153

Clinton likes to tell people how she trounced Sanders in the primaries, but never mind the fact that she was largely carried by red states in the South that weren't going to support her in the general election. Sanders gets an unfair share of the blame for her weakness as a candidate in 2016 since her problems stem from Obama severely damaging her credibility as a candidate in 2008.

His criticisms of her in 2008 held just as true in 2016, which is, quite frankly, almost unbelievable since she had 8 years to work on issues like being overly friendly with Wall Street, being completely disconnected from the hardships of normal people, and seemingly having no purpose in running for president other than to take "become president" off her bucket list. She doesn't lay much blame on Obama in her new book, though.

Her email fiasco fed into the general motif of Hillary being unwilling to take responsibility over bad decisions while simultaneously being too clever to be punished for misdeeds that have caused lesser mortals to lose their jobs and/or go to jail. It made it easy to paint her as the ultimate insider during a year when people were ready for change.
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all jokes aside. You are not serious about going are you ?

Don't waste hard earned money on these craps! I'm sure the local library will have the book available to borrow 1-2 week after the release date. I'm also sure you will hear about it soon all over the net

The title for the book should be " The People I Will Blame"



If she is coming to Phoenix, Yes. I don't plan to buy her book. I'm sure it will be available for borrow soon (like you said). I don't plan to use my money to pay to see her speak either, i'm sure someone around here will be willing to pay for me to see her (in hope of trying to turn me into one of her supporters?)

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churuchurupayapa wrote:

, but it was pretty staggering that the main indicator of a voter's support for Trump was whether or not they were white.

.

Probably because some wypipo got tired of white guilt propaganda that is mainly pushed by white liberals (including Hillary) and shit like pic related




But I'm sure the majority that voted either didn't care or wasn't aware of most of that. They just liked Trump's policies. And his campaign strategy was pretty damn slick.




with no Comey-type event to salvage the election.


Yes because THAT is what made Hillary lose and 'salvaged' the election for Trump. Not Hillary's own doings, anything but that. Totally not her laughing at a 12 year old rape victim whose rapist she defended. Definitely not the shady shit in Haiti and Africa done by her foundation and family.

Back on topic about the book, somebody made a parody of it and its hilarious.



EDIT:
Holy shit, the real thing is even better


IT WAS HER TURN!


God I'm so glad she didn't get elected. Dodge a bullet there.
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In her new book, Crooked Hillary writes that the press gave her "none of the leeway" Trump got and complained how "even her smallest slipup was turned into a major event."


Meanwhile Trump had like 90% negative press coverage from CNN.
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In her new book, Crooked Hillary writes that the press gave her "none of the leeway" Trump got and complained how "even her smallest slipup was turned into a major event."


Meanwhile Trump had like 90% negative press coverage from CNN.


Gotta love that revisionism.
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Rujikin wrote:

In her new book, Crooked Hillary writes that the press gave her "none of the leeway" Trump got and complained how "even her smallest slipup was turned into a major event."


Meanwhile Trump had like 90% negative press coverage from CNN.


Gotta love that revisionism.


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as I'll never find myself reading any of her rambling books and lies, the parts I have read on the net thanks to other sources they are fake, a whine, a true liberal not getting her cookies and milk. however, I ran across this link I can understand the deletion of what happened regarding trump and anti slurs, but legit book ratings being deleted? shameful amazon https://www.yahoo.com/news/amazon-steps-trump-supporters-trash-130010734.html it's alright for the alt-left to go on their tirade upon the loss of their person, but it's not alright for the right/alt-right to go on their tirade and rub it in the other side's nose? when obama got in office there was chaos of the rubbing... politics is one dirty pool I believe I'm never going to fully understand.

just to note I don't read politics books, the right is just as bad as their rantings against the left, I can watch the news and not have to contribute to sales, if I want to get my fill of rantings against each party or within their own party. when the democratic party wants to distance themselves from Hilary that can't be good...
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God I'm so glad she didn't get elected. Dodge a bullet there.


Imagine an alternate dimension where she won. Someone I was talking to said it would be the same, with the media being critical of her the same way they are of Trump 24/7 and conservatives taking the place of the hysterical 'resist' movement. I don't believe that for a second, considering the way the media and never Trumpers shilled for her.
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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

all jokes aside. You are not serious about going are you ?

Don't waste hard earned money on these craps! I'm sure the local library will have the book available to borrow 1-2 week after the release date. I'm also sure you will hear about it soon all over the net

The title for the book should be " The People I Will Blame"



If she is coming to Phoenix, Yes. I don't plan to buy her book. I'm sure it will be available for borrow soon (like you said). I don't plan to use my money to pay to see her speak either, i'm sure someone around here will be willing to pay for me to see her (in hope of trying to turn me into one of her supporters?)



are you going to be one of those people who will ask questions ?
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