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TL;DR version: The Chicago Riots won Nixon the '68 presidency, and Black Lives Matter handed Trump the White House keys on a silver platter.
It wasn't anything that he really did, you know, since we know by now he can't really do anything, period.


Change that to "the Obama presidency" handed Trump the White House keys and you're on the mark. BLM is a tiny blip in the general white nationalist narrative that demographic change had to be arrested.


Um, nooooo.....

Read the 60's-parallel bit more carefully:
Black Lives Matter was enough of annoyance to begin with, and had the public's sympathy at first , but once they got a taste of fame, developed a narcissistic persecution-complex, embarked on their '16 highway and shopping-mall stunts, and put the "Pest" in "National PESTilence", they singlehandedly blackened the name and image of every single "leftwing" protest cause marching in the streets.
We're even a lot less nostalgic about Occupy Wall Street now than we were eight years ago, and that ain't sayin' much.

And who was marching in the streets the most during 2016? Why, either Hillary supporters, Trump protestors, feminist sexual-harassment protests, immigrant-rights champions, racial-justice causes, or All Of The Above!
And to Trump, whose personal-security paranoia was spilling over into the red zone about protestors breaking up his campaign rallies, it WAS All Of The Above: Every "leftwing protestor" who carried a placard was smuggling a concealed assassination weapon and out to get him, personally ("What country did you come from? Who did you vote for?"), and if a few public demonstrations caused collateral damage, it was only PROOF that Leftwing Protestors were literally the barbarians at the gates.

To Republicans, the demonizing of anyone who protested anything was security paranoia, but to moderates and Democrats, it was the same Protest Fatigue. A new Silent Majority just wanted to shut them up, starting (and hopefully ending) with BLM, but only one of the two parties literally thought they were the subversive paid-minions of a scheming rival candidate.
And once Republican pundits started ditto'ing "Violent protestors" all over their rhetoric, public distinctions started to be blurred, and by the time One Lost and One Won, it wasn't seen as a change of regime, but the wishfully-cathartic public Bonfire of the Whiny.
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What happened? Well a lot of things really.

One that isn't talked about much is the fact that a lot of people saw her running as an attempt to be "The first women" president and after a lot of democrats were dissapointed or even angry at Obama aka "the first black" president I feel a lot of people rejected the idea of someone winning votes just for the sake of being the first [blank] president.

Another one was BLM, LGBT, SJW, ect. She had all those groups defending her like hound dogs and demonizing Trump like he was the spawn of satan. It should come at no surprise when you insult and treat the maority of the population like racist trash just for being white and especially if we're white men, that we're not going to want to vote for you.

third was the lies. I'm not saying the right and Trump's side didn't also lie or exaggerate. I still don't know just how severe the crimes she apparently committed were that people were saying cost here the race. What I do know is the left didn't help their case at all. Like trying to paint his proposed wall to keep illegals out as a plan to deport all non americans without question. It became hard to tell just how racist Trump may or may not have been because so many of his "racist comments" were blown out of proportions. Plus when the left is trying to say "our candidate is not a criminal. You have to believe us" it's hard to when they are blantly lying to you constantly.


Seriously get over yourself Hilary. You bribed a ton of people to try to get the white house but failed because you forgot to actually give a damn about the people voting for you. All you did was play to the left and say what you thought people wanted to hear even though they were the same promises Obama made and didn't make good on.


I was never an Obama hater and I'm still not. But I'd hardly call him a success and having someone like her following him and offering no visible change? yeah no thanks.
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The alt-right is having a field day with this book. It's Christmas come early for them.
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as I'll never find myself reading any of her rambling books and lies, the parts I have read on the net thanks to other sources they are fake, a whine, a true liberal not getting her cookies and milk. however, I ran across this link I can understand the deletion of what happened regarding trump and anti slurs, but legit book ratings being deleted? shameful amazon https://www.yahoo.com/news/amazon-steps-trump-supporters-trash-130010734.html it's alright for the alt-left to go on their tirade upon the loss of their person, but it's not alright for the right/alt-right to go on their tirade and rub it in the other side's nose? when obama got in office there was chaos of the rubbing... politics is one dirty pool I believe I'm never going to fully understand.

just to note I don't read politics books, the right is just as bad as their rantings against the left, I can watch the news and not have to contribute to sales, if I want to get my fill of rantings against each party or within their own party. when the democratic party wants to distance themselves from Hilary that can't be good...


Although you will find that the "alt-right", or so we are called, are ranting against both the Democratic party and the leaders of the Republican party. Right now we are boycotting giving money to the RNC until they follow through with their promises. We are tired of spineless do nothing Republicans who talk a big game but do nothing when the time to actually vote happens. Great examples: Paul Ryan, songbird John McCuck, count Romula, and the entire Bush family.

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Although you will find that the "alt-right", or so we are called, are ranting against both the Democratic party and the leaders of the Republican party. Right now we are boycotting giving money to the RNC until they follow through with their promises. We are tired of spineless do nothing Republicans who talk a big game but do nothing when the time to actually vote happens.


Although Trump has even coined the baffling sticks-and-stones term "Alt-Left" ( ?? ), to try and cling to his '16 life-preserver idea that BLM, LGBT and DACA Dreamers are actually one big united "whiny tofu-eating SJW" Axis-of-Evil cabal network, all in the pay of scheming Queen Hillary and her loyal lackey Bernie, to damage his career out of sheer jealousy...And now, of course, out of sour grapes, just because she didn't Win.
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Rujikin wrote:
Although you will find that the "alt-right", or so we are called, are ranting against both the Democratic party and the leaders of the Republican party. Right now we are boycotting giving money to the RNC until they follow through with their promises. We are tired of spineless do nothing Republicans who talk a big game but do nothing when the time to actually vote happens.


Although Trump has even coined the baffling sticks-and-stones term "Alt-Left" ( ?? ), to try and cling to his '16 life-preserver idea that BLM, LGBT and DACA Dreamers are actually one big united "whiny tofu-eating SJW" Axis-of-Evil cabal network, all in the pay of scheming Queen Hillary and her loyal lackey Bernie, to damage his career out of sheer jealousy...And now, of course, out of sour grapes, just because she didn't Win.


Which is true to at least some degree. While Hilary hardly controls BLM and LGBT and such the worst parts of those groups pretty much jump on the same band wagons even if they don't officially cooperate and I don't think Hilary hesitated to use the fuss they kicked up to her advantage at all. Although rather than jealousy it's more just out of being butthurt he won and the fact they've decided to make him the source of everything wrong with this world.


I mean I legit saw an article a few days ago although I didn't bother to red it. It was about a "bi-racial" kid (like who in this country isn't multiple races these days?) who nearly got lynched by some sick teenagers. The part I didn't like was how it went on to rant about "Trump's America" like he caused it.

These are shitty teenagers doing shitty things. Do you really think they give a damn what the president thinks or says? They hurt that kid because they are twisted people themselves not because trump used his evil powers to warp the good people of this nation.

You can accuse him of a lot of shitty things and many are probably true. He doesn't seem like a pleasant guy. But lets not start blaming him for OTHER peoples actions that clearly have no relation to him.
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That's amazing.
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Way to go Hilfrogs! We got amazon to delete all the negative reviews of Madam President's book!


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/13/amazon-deletes-one-star-reviews-clinton-book/
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Ejanss wrote:
Although Trump has even coined the baffling sticks-and-stones term "Alt-Left" ( ?? ), to try and cling to his '16 life-preserver idea that BLM, LGBT and DACA Dreamers are actually one big united "whiny tofu-eating SJW" Axis-of-Evil cabal network, all in the pay of scheming Queen Hillary and her loyal lackey Bernie, to damage his career out of sheer jealousy...And now, of course, out of sour grapes, just because she didn't Win.


Which is true to at least some degree. While Hilary hardly controls BLM and LGBT and such the worst parts of those groups pretty much jump on the same band wagons even if they don't officially cooperate and I don't think Hilary hesitated to use the fuss they kicked up to her advantage at all. Although rather than jealousy it's more just out of being butthurt he won and the fact they've decided to make him the source of everything wrong with this world.


He WAS the source of everything wrong with the world during the campaign, long before anyone voted--
We just kept taking bets on what would be, quote, "the big Greg-Stilson Baby Moment", when his big Old-Neighborhood mouth finally cost him the election once and for all (oh, man, we were so sure it was going to be the beauty-contestant thing), so you can't blame the Democrats for getting too lazy and thinking they had the election in the bag with anyone.
Democrats treated Hillary like a dose of icky medicine: You have to swallow a big ol' spoonful if you want to make the Big Bad Disease Germs go away, but that doesn't make it cherry-flavored.

Problem is, Trump's big obnoxious mouth got him ahead, and not just with his Jerry-Springer crowd that "hoped he'd drop F-bombs" about "that old hag Hillary" at the rallies.
In both elections where Hillary's run, somebody finally drops the immortal debate quote about WHY no one ever wants to vote for her, but she pretends she didn't hear it--In the '08 debate with Obama, she joked that "maybe she was too unlikable?", and Obama, with a perfectly tactful beat pause, said "You're likable enough." Oo...Talk about a major burn with faint praise. It became the gravestone epitaph for her '08 campaign, and helped clear up all those questions about What Happened to "Her" Superdelegates And Why Obama Got Them.
In the '16 election, we thought Trump had finally had it when he blurted out "Such a nasty woman...", and revealed that the campaign was all one big neurotic personal grudge to him. And if it took a complete jerk to say what only a complete jerk would say, at least somebody said it. The Democrats could try to play it for smugness, but for most of the public it was awfully hard to disagree.

The whole idea of "jealousy" is trying to make TOO much out of the only--yes, by now, only--victory the Trump Republicans have had in almost the last year by now: Winning a vote. It's like the Brady Bunch episode where Peter kept on bragging about saving the kid at the toy store...Yes, thank you, but get a life, it wasn't that big a deal to everyone else around you anyway, and you're becoming a crashing-bore jackass reliving it to everyone within earshot.
It means so much to the Republicans that they want to believe that the rest of the world is gnashing their teeth in rue, but, um...no. We're too busy trying not to throw too many openly contemptuous dagger glances at Ms. "THANK you, we could have had President Sanders by now, Lady Macbeth!", to care about what Boss Baby thinks at the moment.
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kiltmaker2 wrote:

I wonder if she answers the question of why there was a reported 15,000 more votes cast in Chicago than there were registered voters?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/05/chicago-reported-thousands-more-votes-than-voters-in-2016-gop-official-says.html


Wow that's complete horseshit.
Ballots cast: 1115664
Registered : 1570529
https://chicagoelections.com/en/wdlevel3.asp?elec_code=4
Of course I am sure you bothered to vet this before you posted it, what are your sources?
I mean, basic math says that more people were registered to vote than cast ballots, but hey, why let facts get in the way of a good outrage?
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with no Comey-type event to salvage the election.


Yes because THAT is what made Hillary lose and 'salvaged' the election for Trump. Not Hillary's own doings, anything but that. Totally not her laughing at a 12 year old rape victim whose rapist she defended. Definitely not the shady shit in Haiti and Africa done by her foundation and family.


Thanks for responding. I have to point out that this is a grossly inaccurate interpretation of what I wrote. In the paragraph of which you only cited a snippet, I called Clinton "mediocre", and that she had a "terrible narrative" to her campaign. She had been in the public eye for three decades, and was a foil for the opposing party. I clearly did not attribute the election loss to solely Comey's still poorly-understood decision to comment on an ongoing investigation.

That being said, as Nate Silver on FiveThirtyEight has repeatedly pointed out, Clinton lost around 2 points -in aggregate- across all polls on average after Comey's letter. This pulled Trump from a certain but not overwhelming defeat to a position where he could still get the right configuration of electoral votes -even while losing the popular vote by 3 million votes-. This is an important distinction from saying that a commenter "blames" a particular event in the campaign. We're talking about causal factors in a candidate's defeat, not whether or not I think she should have won or not.

When you take her weaknesses into account (and she had a great many), along with her strengths (she ideologically fits with much of suburban and urban America), she didn't have a big margin of error. Comey's letter pulled her back into a scenario where losing was a possibility. That's statistically documented. I'm not saying anything controversial or disputed. Ball don't lie.

And, for your education:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/trump-says-clinton-laughed-about-rape-case/

You brought up a debunked online myth as evidence. You should check things with Snopes/Politifact at least before you post them on forum boards.
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Wow that's complete horseshit.
Ballots cast: 1115664
Registered : 1570529
https://chicagoelections.com/en/wdlevel3.asp?elec_code=4
Of course I am sure you bothered to vet this before you posted it, what are your sources?
I mean, basic math says that more people were registered to vote than cast ballots, but hey, why let facts get in the way of a good outrage?

>chigagoelections.com
Hacked Russian bot site. CNN told me so.


churuchurupayapa wrote:

And, for your education:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/trump-says-clinton-laughed-about-rape-case/

You brought up a debunked online myth as evidence. .

Really linking politifalse? You can listen to the clip yourself my dude. She laughed at the fact she got a pedo rapist off easy. That site doesn't debunk anything but the myth that it isn't far left biased





You should check things with Snopes/Politifact at least before you post them on forum boards


You should try looking things up for yourself instead of relying on some leftist website's spin on it.

Here is the video of it. Have you even listened to it yourself?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDzRtZLUkc

Neither politifalse or snopes calls the recording itself fake BTW, just getting that out of the way. They just try to weasel it around and say "oh she wasn't laughing at THAT, just something else..."
From your own link:

In the tapes, she calls it a "terrible case" and "a fascinating case," for reasons that will become clear.

The article notes that she can be heard laughing at several points on the tape, but it doesn't say she was laughing at the victim, as Trump claims.

"S-SHE WASN'T LAUGHING AT THE VICTIM!"
Even if she wasn't directly laughing AT the raped child, she was still laughing in an interview about how she got a pedo rapist off easy. That's just as fucking bad in the eyes of pretty much anyone that's not a brainwashed Hillary drone.

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So how about the Cook County Clerk?
http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/elections/electiondata/Documents/PostElectionReport_110816.pdf
Hey check it out, exact same numbers, city of Chicago: Registered voters: 1,570,529. Ballots cast: 1,115,664

Deny the facts all you want, but facts are not feelings, they don't change to suit your whim. Of course I am sure you will just call this to be falsified data as well, because of course, any data that doesn't fit your agenda HAS to be false. Done wasting time replying to you Amyas.
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MadBovine wrote:

So how about the Cook County Clerk?
http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/elections/electiondata/Documents/PostElectionReport_110816.pdf
Hey check it out, exact same numbers, city of Chicago: Registered voters: 1,570,529. Ballots cast: 1,115,664

Deny the facts all you want, but facts are not feelings, they don't change to suit your whim. Of course I am sure you will just call this to be falsified data as well, because of course, any data that doesn't fit your agenda HAS to be false. Done wasting time replying to you Amyas.


Then why did the Chicago Election Board list more votes than voters when a FOIA request was submitted?
Could it be the links you are providing have been tampered with or updated for damage control? I think so.
http://chicagocitywire.com/stories/511195461-election-board-lists-more-general-election-votes-than-voters-in-chicago


Cleveland told Fox News he filed a number of FOIA requests—the original in January, and “several follow ups” for updated numbers.

“They ignored them,” Cleveland said. “They have been stonewalling us for six months.”


They had six months to tamper with evidence of voter fraud.
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The thing is I have no special hate for Hillary, but I hope that after this failure that she takes a hint and goes away. I swear to all the gods that if she tries to run in 2020 I'm going to smack her.
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