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You know how there have been a lot of monster girl series, ever since Monster Musume, like A Centaur's Life and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid? Why isn't there a harem series about a human male gaining a harem of anthropomorphic cartoon animal girls?

And why aren't there any anthropomorphic animals in anime, period? I mean, there are the ones from Sanrio, like Aggressive Retsuko, plus that anthropomorphic fox thief Zorori. And we eventually got the minks in One Piece, as well, especially two of the sexiest anthropomorphic animals produced in any anime, Wanda and Carrot. But rarely do I see any anthropomorphic animals in anime, and instead see almost nothing but humans and humanoids.

And it's not just limited to anime, either. Zootopia earned $1 billion at the box office and earned several awards such as a Golden Globe and an Oscar, but Disney seems to outright refuse to sell extra merchandise to capitalize on its success, compared to its other franchises such as the Disney princesses, Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar. I don't see that many anthropomorphic animals in Western cartoons either, except for Regular Show and Adventure Time, both of which were sadly cancelled and overtaken by Teen Titans Go, as well as the Duck Tales reboot. And, in-terms of video games, either the anthropomorphic animals in them have either gone missing altogether, like Ratchet and Sly Cooper, or have been outright mismanaged and reduced to scathing crap, like Sonic the Hedgehog.

So why aren't we seeing any more anthropomorphic animals, not just in anime, but also other media?
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The furry fandom has got a bad reputation? Valley of uncanny resemblance? They simply lack sex appeal to a majority of people?


I mean, Zootopia had a decent message and story to go along with it. The anthropomorphic animal were simply used to communicate the idea of discrimination in a fantasy element while not specifying the concept of "race". I am not sure, but I feel the three questions I asked now are perhaps related. I do not find Wanda or Carrot sexy. That is not my thing. The furry fandom gets a bad reputation to the point that many people outright refuse to identify with it, and in some ways, I find the image of animal humans to be unsettling if drawn or animated in certain manners.
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The furry fandom has got a bad reputation? Valley of uncanny resemblance? They simply lack sex appeal to a majority of people?


I mean, Zootopia had a decent message and story to go along with it. The anthropomorphic animal were simply used to communicate the idea of discrimination in a fantasy element while not specifying the concept of "race". I am not sure, but I feel the three questions I asked now are perhaps related. I do not find Wanda or Carrot sexy. That is not my thing. The furry fandom gets a bad reputation to the point that many people outright refuse to identify with it, and in some ways, I find the image of animal humans to be unsettling if drawn or animated in certain manners.


That's what I keep hearing. There is a lot of stigma against furries for being "sexual deviants", which is a possible explanation as to why there aren't any anthropomorphic animals in anime anymore, and why, to this day, Frozen is continuously overtaking Zootopia. Anthropomorphic animals have been reduced to a fetish by the internet, so other media have to end up creating humans as an alternative, especially sexualized female humans and/or humanoids in anime.

I mean, we can have sexualized human females in anime, and even monster girls or dragon girls like in Monster Musume and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, respectively. But no sexy, female anthropomorphic animals, like Judy Hopps, Rouge the Bat, or One Piece's Wanda and Carrot?
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

The furry fandom has got a bad reputation? Valley of uncanny resemblance? They simply lack sex appeal to a majority of people?


I mean, Zootopia had a decent message and story to go along with it. The anthropomorphic animal were simply used to communicate the idea of discrimination in a fantasy element while not specifying the concept of "race". I am not sure, but I feel the three questions I asked now are perhaps related. I do not find Wanda or Carrot sexy. That is not my thing. The furry fandom gets a bad reputation to the point that many people outright refuse to identify with it, and in some ways, I find the image of animal humans to be unsettling if drawn or animated in certain manners.


That's what I keep hearing. There is a lot of stigma against furries for being "sexual deviants", which is a possible explanation as to why there aren't any anthropomorphic animals in anime anymore, and why, to this day, Frozen is continuously overtaking Zootopia. Anthropomorphic animals have been reduced to a fetish by the internet, so other media have to end up creating humans as an alternative, especially sexualized female humans and/or humanoids in anime.

I mean, we can have sexualized females in anime, especially either monster girls or dragon girls like in Monster Musume and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid. But no sexy, female anthropomorphic animals, like Judy Hopps, Rouge the Bat, or One Piece's Wanda and Carrot?


Not quite sure, but to go on a tangent, sexualized is a bit of a weird term for me. In terms of appearance, the female body is naturally invoking of sexual lust and imagery, same as male bodies. It seems odd to sexualize something is already invoking of sexual lust for most people, if not of some sexual connotation. If we mean idealized, then I suppose a great deal of characters tend to be portrayed as more beautiful or more muscular than the average person, with revealing clothing, then you are correct I suppose. Just me rambling.

This is to go on to the next topic. I find humans to be attractive, anthropomorphic animal creatures portrayed in a sexual manner just evoke shades of disgusting in many people, including myself. That being said, I think the true question is "Do they have to be, or usually are portrayed in a manner?" I think no, they do not have to be masturbation material, but as for the consistent nature of being fetishized? I...cannot answer, but I imagine most people in general are just ambivalent to the idea of anthropomorphic animals than a fan of them.

Unfortunately, the other question is a deep seeded fear of association I imagine. Or maybe disinterest. To clarify, I am not against any more inclusion of such creatures in media, I only hope to foster understanding by offering reasons as to answer your question on "Why?"

That being said, were anthropomorphic animals ever popular in anime? And I mean on the same level of a human with the face of a dog and fur covering every part of their body, not Kemono Friends, which is essentially just Neko.
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Most anime girls are designed to appeal to a large market/demographic or a low common denominator. Moe, loli, oppai, imouto, kemonomimi -- These sorts of things sell. They sell figures and hug pillows and all sorts of merchandise. They sell the show to the average anime fan. Furry is very niche and, on top of that, pretty Western.

I don't really see straight-up Furry stuff out of Japan, especially compared to cat-girls and other part-animal girls. And if a manga or anime creator was going to create cute girls for their new shounen or ecchi series (for example), they'd most likely go with fetishes and things proven to work in the industry instead of rolling the dice on the Furry community.

That isn't to say there wouldn't be a market for sexy furry anime girls. It just (probably) wouldn't be as profitable as more common fetishes -- unless of course it was simply an awesome show and the cute furries were just the cherry on top.

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I mean, we can have sexualized human females in anime, and even monster girls or dragon girls like in Monster Musume and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, respectively. But no sexy, female anthropomorphic animals, like Judy Hopps, Rouge the Bat, or One Piece's Wanda and Carrot?


That has a lot to do with why people find furry fandom deviant.

To boil it down to the bare bones of it;

Monster girls are humans with some non human bits.

Anthropomorphic animals are animals with some sapien/humanoid bits.

As such the later carries a HUGE bestiality connotation while the former does not. The vast majority of people simply don't want to **** an animal while a cute girl with big knockers and wings is fair game cause she's still a cute girl. Even a centaur which literally has a horse's ass is more girl and less animal than a furry.
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That has a lot to do with why people find furry fandom deviant.

To boil it down to the bare bones of it;

Monster girls are humans with some non human bits.

Anthropomorphic animals are animals with some sapien/humanoid bits.


Also, this. ^^^ A human with some animal characteristics is much more appealing to a bigger audience than an animal with some human characteristics. Judy Hopps isn't a bunny-girl. She's just a dumb BUNNY.
(Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)
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You know how there have been a lot of monster girl series, ever since Monster Musume, like A Centaur's Life and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid? Why isn't there a harem series about a human male gaining a harem of anthropomorphic cartoon animal girls?

And why aren't there any anthropomorphic animals in anime, period? I mean, there are the ones from Sanrio, like Aggressive Retsuko, plus that anthropomorphic fox thief Zorori. And we eventually got the minks in One Piece, as well, especially two of the sexiest anthropomorphic animals produced in any anime, Wanda and Carrot. But rarely do I see any anthropomorphic animals in anime, and instead see almost nothing but humans and humanoids.

And it's not just limited to anime, either. Zootopia earned $1 billion at the box office and earned several awards such as a Golden Globe and an Oscar, but Disney seems to outright refuse to sell extra merchandise to capitalize on its success, compared to its other franchises such as the Disney princesses, Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar. I don't see that many anthropomorphic animals in Western cartoons either, except for Regular Show and Adventure Time, both of which were sadly cancelled and overtaken by Teen Titans Go, as well as the Duck Tales reboot. And, in-terms of video games, either the anthropomorphic animals in them have either gone missing altogether, like Ratchet and Sly Cooper, or have been outright mismanaged and reduced to scathing crap, like Sonic the Hedgehog.

So why aren't we seeing any more anthropomorphic animals, not just in anime, but also other media?


What Will You Do At the End of The World ? Are You Busy? Will You Save Us? has plenty of them

Inuyasha has a few too: Shipo and Hachi
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Commander_PonyShep wrote:

You know how there have been a lot of monster girl series, ever since Monster Musume, like A Centaur's Life and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid? Why isn't there a harem series about a human male gaining a harem of anthropomorphic cartoon animal girls?

And why aren't there any anthropomorphic animals in anime, period? I mean, there are the ones from Sanrio, like Aggressive Retsuko, plus that anthropomorphic fox thief Zorori. And we eventually got the minks in One Piece, as well, especially two of the sexiest anthropomorphic animals produced in any anime, Wanda and Carrot. But rarely do I see any anthropomorphic animals in anime, and instead see almost nothing but humans and humanoids.

And it's not just limited to anime, either. Zootopia earned $1 billion at the box office and earned several awards such as a Golden Globe and an Oscar, but Disney seems to outright refuse to sell extra merchandise to capitalize on its success, compared to its other franchises such as the Disney princesses, Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar. I don't see that many anthropomorphic animals in Western cartoons either, except for Regular Show and Adventure Time, both of which were sadly cancelled and overtaken by Teen Titans Go, as well as the Duck Tales reboot. And, in-terms of video games, either the anthropomorphic animals in them have either gone missing altogether, like Ratchet and Sly Cooper, or have been outright mismanaged and reduced to scathing crap, like Sonic the Hedgehog.

So why aren't we seeing any more anthropomorphic animals, not just in anime, but also other media?


What Will You Do At the End of The World ? Are You Busy? Will You Save Us? has plenty of them

Inuyasha has a few too: Shipo and Hachi


Can you provide examples for me please? You know for WorldEnd, the series with the longest name you brought up?
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Most anime girls are designed to appeal to a large market/demographic or a low common denominator. Moe, loli, oppai, imouto, kemonomimi -- These sorts of things sell. They sell figures and hug pillows and all sorts of merchandise. They sell the show to the average anime fan. Furry is very niche and, on top of that, pretty Western.

I don't really see straight-up Furry stuff out of Japan, especially compared to cat-girls and other part-animal girls. And if a manga or anime creator was going to create cute girls for their new shounen or ecchi series (for example), they'd most likely go with fetishes and things proven to work in the industry instead of rolling the dice on the Furry community.

That isn't to say there wouldn't be a market for sexy furry anime girls. It just (probably) wouldn't be as profitable as more common fetishes -- unless of course it was simply an awesome show and the cute furries were just the cherry on top.



Kind of funny how people straight up try to swap the two out. 8D

Sorry but the former isn't furry no matter WHAT you say, while the latter is straight weeeird; well that "community" is.
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Can you provide examples for me please? You know for WorldEnd, the series with the longest name you brought up?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IOugG8Kzmc
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NekobasuRider wrote:

Most anime girls are designed to appeal to a large market/demographic or a low common denominator. Moe, loli, oppai, imouto, kemonomimi -- These sorts of things sell. They sell figures and hug pillows and all sorts of merchandise. They sell the show to the average anime fan. Furry is very niche and, on top of that, pretty Western.

I don't really see straight-up Furry stuff out of Japan, especially compared to cat-girls and other part-animal girls. And if a manga or anime creator was going to create cute girls for their new shounen or ecchi series (for example), they'd most likely go with fetishes and things proven to work in the industry instead of rolling the dice on the Furry community.

That isn't to say there wouldn't be a market for sexy furry anime girls. It just (probably) wouldn't be as profitable as more common fetishes -- unless of course it was simply an awesome show and the cute furries were just the cherry on top.



Kind of funny how people straight up try to swap the two out. 8D

Sorry but the former isn't furry no matter WHAT you say, while the latter is straight weeeird; well that "community" is.


I never said that part-animal girls are furries. I was just making a comparison between two different styles of "animal girls." They're not the same -- but they are comparable (depending on how closely they meet in the middle). For example, Polt from MonMusu is a Monster Girl, but can you really say she has nothing in common with a Furry?



I'd say that's a pretty close comparison. She's literally furry.

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NekobasuRider wrote: For example, Polt from MonMusu is a Monster Girl, but can you really say she has nothing in common with a Furry?


I'd say that's a pretty close comparison. She's literally furry.



Polt is the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0P1Bk8Cx4
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NekobasuRider wrote: For example, Polt from MonMusu is a Monster Girl, but can you really say she has nothing in common with a Furry?


I'd say that's a pretty close comparison. She's literally furry.



Polt is the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0P1Bk8Cx4


How is she the "danger zone"? Is it because she's both a furry and a monster girl at the same time?
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