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Post Reply Anybody else getting exasperated with Isekai stories?
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Posted 9/12/17 , edited 9/12/17

PhantomGundam wrote:

Here are all the isekai t.v. series I could find, not counting shows that are really just about space or time travel. Also excluding sequels. These are all shows where the main characters are sent to another world, whether it's by some portal, a god, or some other higher power at work.




You know thats really not that many. And some of those are pretty good. So no way id be tired of it.

Would also really, REALLY, like to point out. If your seeing more of them its because your also just seeing more Anime. With 30 -> 40 anime coming out a SEASON now, how can you not have some being 'another world'. I mean if you compare it to other genre's, is it even a contender for being high on a list?

You know, what I dont see much of anymore is Space anime. Other then that every genre has pretty large showings.

To end. No, im not bored of these types of anime, and there really isnt that many of them relatively.
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Posted 9/12/17 , edited 9/12/17
No.

The last Isekai thing I watched was Outbreak Company in 2013.

... I read an isekai yaoi manga, which I think was actually Taiwanese. The isekai was sort of wuxia style. Anyway, that was really bad, I dropped it in the second volume, and actually, one of my novels was originally started to fix what was wrong with that manga... and then I realized how cliche isekai was. So instead of being from the real world, now my character Julien was raised in a monastery in the mountains, where he lived until the sorcerer comes to find him (instead of summoning him there). I promise they'll still take a bath together early on. (in the first draft, the sorcerer summons him in the bath. ... the sorcerer is his love interest, if that's not obvious).

edit: Is Kamigami no Asobi isekai? I don't think it is, since there isn't anyone in the garden who wasn't summoned there from their regular lives. The rest of them are gods, but they were also taken out of their regular lives and trapped there, and they have their powers sealed. So... it's not isekai.


Really great underrated show, by the way.
Just... Loki. Best character.

ALSO - "isekai is cliche" isn't because of anime, it's because of light novels. ... going to make another thread about that, actually...
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Posted 9/12/17 , edited 9/13/17
I'm tired of the kind of isekai anime that have no story, other than what's in the description, and transport their lame male leads into their fantasy worlds via speeding delivery truck. That shit has already become a parody. If you can't even take five minutes to set up a dam story rather than just stating some dull and predictable and utterly repetitive nonsense in a description and calling it a day, I can't be bothered to watch your anime. Sadly, way too many people find too much to like in these lazy cheap knock-offs, and so we're stuck with this genre as a parody on itself for the foreseeable future.
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Posted 9/12/17 , edited 9/13/17
Well I used to love the show Sliders..so I a am kind of partial to them.
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Posted 9/12/17 , edited 9/13/17

Dushan wrote:

You know thats really not that many. And some of those are pretty good. So no way id be tired of it.

Would also really, REALLY, like to point out. If your seeing more of them its because your also just seeing more Anime. With 30 -> 40 anime coming out a SEASON now, how can you not have some being 'another world'. I mean if you compare it to other genre's, is it even a contender for being high on a list?

You know, what I dont see much of anymore is Space anime. Other then that every genre has pretty large showings.

To end. No, im not bored of these types of anime, and there really isnt that many of them relatively.


Yeah, that's true too. When I was searching through each season, the 90's was practically empty. Hardly any new anime being made in the first half. It was mostly just Sailor Moon, DBZ (which started in 89), and then 1 or 2 goofy looking shows per season that no one has ever heard of. Summer 25 years ago paints a completely different picture than what we see today. The second half the 90's started getting a bit more diverse with Lain, NGE, Slam Dunk, Initial D, Trigun, CCS, etc. It was an average of maybe 2 or 3 popular shows each season. It slowly increased over the next few years along with the number of lesser known shows, then the whole industry just exploded in the mid 2000's. Ever since then, the amount of anime we've been getting, not counting those random ones only a few hundred people know of, has been drastically increasing each year.

More shows being produced naturally means a higher chance of certain kinds of stories being adapted. Still, there have been some types of stories that have gotten popular recently. Isekai, high school battle harems, gaming worlds, these all existed for a long time but didn't really become prominent until just a few years ago unlike ordinary war mecha or fighting shonen for example, which have made up a large amount of anime for decades. Even if the rate of every other kind of story made has gone up in proportion, these are the ones that are gaining a higher percentage of the popularity than they have before while every other genre has remained stagnant. Isekai in particular has actually become so huge that I remember seeing a contest a while back where they specifically banned isekai stories alone since there were just so many. I personally don't believe there's such a thing as too much but I can see why others are starting to get tired of it. Especially when nearly every mainstream one has been within the last 5 years and they're being made more noticeable by putting "isekai" in the titles themselves lately.
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/14/17
I am tired of all anime genres that use TV Trope clichés as substitutes for plot and story.

Isekai just seems to suffer from this more than most at the moment.
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/14/17

djason1988 wrote:

Sorry, gotta bit carried away. As a long time anime viewer and manga/lightnovel reader, I'm just getting more and more irritated with poorly written, copied-and-pasted stories being thrown at us, and Isekai is the absolute worst of the bunch.


I was gonna say, it sounds like what you're really fed up with is bad writing and bandwagon-jumping. It's been like that as long as there's been anime (or just about anything else that gets written). When something comes along that finds success, bad copies emerge. It's cyclical.
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Nah some isekais are good like smartphone (not the anime the light novel) and konosuba or grimgar it just is something people fail at
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/14/17
One of my favorite anime, The Twelve Kingdoms, is an isekai. The idea isn't bad in and of itself its just execution is often poor. Honestly there is just a bunch of mediocre anime being made today and that is the real problem. It feels like the anime industry is starting to go the Hollywood route, and is just making more and more things that have guaranteed cash returns than trying to make anything of lasting value. I wish they'd take more risks.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

Nah some isekais are good like smartphone (not the anime the light novel) and konosuba or grimgar it just is something people fail at


Some isekais are also just really hard to adapt into anime as well. Infodumps don't really translate well on-screen, and they way some of the storylines go is hard to translate into a 24 minute anime.

Kumo desu ga, nani ka? is one of the biggest isekais right now and I have no idea how they would manage an anime for that.
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/14/17

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I am tired of all anime genres that use TV Trope clichés as substitutes for plot and story.

Isekai just seems to suffer from this more than most at the moment.


Tropes are tools (Warning: TV Tropes)
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Posted 9/15/17 , edited 9/16/17
So, a question. If the MC is not actually transported to a different world, but instead a whole other fantastic or bizarre facet of his own world/universe is revealed to that him that he never knew existed, is that isekai?

It seems like the same sort of narrative, only that it usually involves going to high school or otherwise going through the motions of regular life on top of all the sudden strangeness.

Things like Noragami or Charlotte or The World God Only Knows, etc. With varying levels of weird, of course.
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Posted 9/15/17 , edited 9/16/17
So, a question. If the MC is not actually transported to a different world, but instead a whole other fantastic or bizarre facet of his own world/universe is revealed to that him that he never knew existed, is that isekai?

It seems like the same sort of narrative, only that it usually involves going to high school or otherwise going through the motions of regular life on top of all the sudden strangeness.

Things like Noragami or Charlotte or The World God Only Knows, etc. With varying levels of weird, of course.
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17
There have been a boatload of "Another World" anime as of late, but it's only due to its popularity and pretty much because of it's escapism.

Especially with the popularity of titles like Re: Zero and Konosuba, you know that will open the floodgates.
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/17/17
There's enough variety within the isekai genre that I haven't sworn off it completely. Looking at this season, Smartphone is pretty much everything wrong about isekai, but Restaurant and Knights and Magic omit one or more of the common tropes of isekai. Restaurant is more about restaurant antics than isekai antics based on my first impression, while Knight's and Magic's protagonist is too concerned about mecha to care about women. Well, I suppose Smartphone doesn't have a sociopath protagonist, but it has the opposite issue of having a protagonist that is a little too Messianic. I don't blame people for being exasperated about it though., and a couple of major reasons why I still can tolerate it is because Zero no Tsukaima was one of my first "otaku" anime and because I love JRPGs (which many isekai works tend to emulate to a fault).

From my point of view, I think Zero no Tsukaima and Sword Art Online were major factors in making the isekai genre as big as it is or at least isekai as it is now. The former was a harem, and the latter had an OP MC, both common faults of modern isekai. It's definitely older than Shield Hero at least. Making the isekai world reminiscent of a JRPG is a newer phenomenon, though JRPG parody anime/manga are almost as old as JRPGs themselves.

Isekai as a genre is pretty old though, mainly because it's just the "fish out of water" trope pushed to a further extreme. Aura Battler Dunbine, Digimon Adventure, and The Legend of Escaflowne are some pretty old examples.

One isekai light novel I would like to see (decently) adapted is Faraway Paladin, mainly because of how classically "high fantasy" it is compared to the modern isekai story. It's definitely one of the more unique ones.
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