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I've always thought guys should always wear shirts, too. I've always felt self-conscious when I'm not wearing a shirt, and I've had a fairly athletic build my whole life.

I asked my wife what she thought, and she feels the same way apparently. Hates it when guys go shirtless, feels uncomfortable when shirtless guys are around.

Also, I agree that rubbing/touching a person's chest without permission should definitely, definitely be illegal, no matter what you are.
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'You are born Naked! Be naked, love naked. Its all good. anyhow there is no laws stopping females from going topless in NY.. so feel free to do that.. but like ladies staring at the mans well oiled chest, the man will most likely admire that witch your gifted with as well.
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I don't care if women go topless, they have every right to do so. Let them be free. I'm not some creep who will pitch a tent in public, honestly, or some parent telling their children to cover their eyes. Grow up, women don't have that much control. It's just that men can be stupid in many ways.

Don't rub a woman's chest thinking it's the same as rubbing a man's chest. Why? Well why don't you ask a woman with tits. Yes they rub them for fun, or when they're bored, yes that's exactly why, and if you are one of those girls who does, you have way too much time on your hands for that to be considered passing the time

Nothing to do with sexual pleasure, absolutely not. No sensitivity at all.





Are you talking about men's or women's sensitivity? Or are you being sarcastic, ironic, etc.?

Because if you're talking about men, I've heard that some men do have sensitivity, though not I.

And if you're talking about women, wow, are you wrong. Women have varying degrees of sexual sensitivity with their nipples and breasts. For some, it's not much, for others a turn on, and some can achieve orgasm through nipple/breast stimulation alone (which, in the cases where I've given such orgasms, the woman feels such pleasure to cause her hips to move of their own volition, so technically, it could still be a clitoral/vaginal orgasm, but delivered via her nipples).

Fact is, men and women are different, and so are their chests. Women's breasts are sexual organs: They are part of a woman's sexual reproduction system. Their stimulation can cause sexual pleasure in women that does not exist to anywhere near the degree it does in men. They are different, have different purposes, therefore their different treatment under the law is to be expected.

Now, I have no problem with topless beaches, or nude beaches. But not in the general public. No coed games of shirts vs. skins in the park on on the corner lot, please.
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jtjumper wrote:

I've frequently read post by people claiming that allowing men to show their chests while forbidding women to do so is an unfair inequality. However, most people would agree that rubbing a man's pecs is not a sex offense, but doing that a girl is. My question this: Why is one an unfair inequality and the other not?

I would consider it an sexual offense unless it was not intentional or accidental.

As for the issue with topless, I wouldn't have problems with either gender doing it. Whenever I go for a run or some other outdoor activity, I would often come across a lot of topless guys. When this occurs, I pretty much give it no special thought. I just think, "oh, there's another person there. Make sure I don't bump into them." If being topless was widespread and society becomes accustomed to it, I imagine I would have the same thought when crossing a topless woman. On a side note, in a society with widespread, legal topless-ness, I wonder if breasts would be considered less sensual.
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lawdog wrote:


Humms wrote:



I don't care if women go topless, they have every right to do so. Let them be free. I'm not some creep who will pitch a tent in public, honestly, or some parent telling their children to cover their eyes. Grow up, women don't have that much control. It's just that men can be stupid in many ways.

Don't rub a woman's chest thinking it's the same as rubbing a man's chest. Why? Well why don't you ask a woman with tits. Yes they rub them for fun, or when they're bored, yes that's exactly why, and if you are one of those girls who does, you have way too much time on your hands for that to be considered passing the time

Nothing to do with sexual pleasure, absolutely not. No sensitivity at all.





Are you talking about men's or women's sensitivity? Or are you being sarcastic, ironic, etc.?

Because if you're talking about men, I've heard that some men do have sensitivity, though not I.

And if you're talking about women, wow, are you wrong. Women have varying degrees of sexual sensitivity with their nipples and breasts. For some, it's not much, for others a turn on, and some can achieve orgasm through nipple/breast stimulation alone (which, in the cases where I've given such orgasms, the woman feels such pleasure to cause her hips to move of their own volition, so technically, it could still be a clitoral/vaginal orgasm, but delivered via her nipples).

Fact is, men and women are different, and so are their chests. Women's breasts are sexual organs: They are part of a woman's sexual reproduction system. Their stimulation can cause sexual pleasure in women that does not exist to anywhere near the degree it does in men. They are different, have different purposes, therefore their different treatment under the law is to be expected.

Now, I have no problem with topless beaches, or nude beaches. But not in the general public. No coed games of shirts vs. skins in the park on on the corner lot, please.




But it will ruin the fun if people know it's sarcasm. It's best to understand I'm here to better my connection with humor but information is information, so I won't knock that over on your part.

You're right, men and women are different, everyone has a different body, different tolerances to pain and sensitivity. There are billions of people in this world. The human body is a beautiful thing, more advanced than technology.

It's the people with silicone that lose sensitivity and feeling. Don't let them tell you otherwise.

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