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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/15/17
Seems Facebook is allowing advertisers target ‘Jew Haters’

Mark come on you need the money that much?

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-let-advertisers-reach-jew-haters-through-ad-buying-tool-2017-9
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/14/17

uncletim wrote:

Seems Facebook is allowing advertisers target ‘Jew Haters’

Mark come on you need the money that much?

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-let-advertisers-reach-jew-haters-through-ad-buying-tool-2017-9


Ugh... it seems you posted a link to an article you haven't read. I would strongly encourage you to actually read the entire article. The advertising to "Jew Haters" was due to the automated system creating a "Jew Hater" category because enough people posted it as their profession, interest ect. Once this was brought to their attention it was quickly taken down. So in this case Facebook isn't really to blame as you can take a single topic and make 1000 alternate sayings/phrases/spellings that would keep whatever your topic is in the algorithm. Trying to stop all phrases/words that people would find offensive nothing short of a miracle. As a company they probably have a word/phrase index that the system blocks and they just add categories as they go.
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The categories are algorithmic. When lots of people are searching for a subject, Facebook automatically creates an ad demographic for that target, so you can make an ad based on a meme and use it to pike your shit while the meme is still popular. They don't know what the algorithm is going to make, because they don't know what people are going to search for.

The problem, of course, is that if you stick a filter in front of it - well, sometimes a topic is ON FIRE for six hours and then nobody cares. The longer it takes Facebook to get your ad in front of those people, the more money you lose.

Notice in particular that it's not about the money THEY lose; Facebook doesn't lose much if you can't run your bullshit meme-based ad for three hours. They're on top of literally every trend that anyone advertises for. While you might not be able to advertise on this six-hour trend, Facebook know good and Goddamn well that you still have the same Facebook ad budget and you are just going to spend it advertising your shit on some other trend. Facebook loses nothing.
Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/14/17
*yawns* Darn that Facebook.
Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/15/17
You should be more upset targeted ads exist in the first place. tbqh fampai
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

You should be more upset targeted ads exist in the first place.


Yeah, because it's so much better when more of the ads you see are for stuff you don't want and would never want. Guys really should be seeing a lot more tampon ads.

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cdarklock wrote:

Yeah, because it's so much better when more of the ads you see are for stuff you don't want and would never want. Guys really should be seeing a lot more tampon ads.



Do you actually click on ads? I don't, so it doesn't really matter to me. If I want to buy something, I will know where to look and find it on my own. I don't even see ads either unless they are really malicious and tricky, but there is a database collecting information for ads anyway from amazon searches and the like. That should not happen imo.

Thought about using Ad Nauseum to generate fake clicks to hurt goolag, but it looks like too much work, plus you have to be able to see ads to do it in the first place iirc.
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/15/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:

You should be more upset targeted ads exist in the first place. tbqh fampai


I am just glad I left that cesspool I rate it just below tumbler
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Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/15/17
While Facebook is indeed a piece of shit this is due to the automatic algorithms. Hell they probably have an incest and devil worship category too along with a communist selection.


cdarklock wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

You should be more upset targeted ads exist in the first place.


Yeah, because it's so much better when more of the ads you see are for stuff you don't want and would never want. Guys really should be seeing a lot more tampon ads.



Their idea of targeted ads is still horrible! I have yet to see targeted anime advertising yet.
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cdarklock wrote:

Yeah, because it's so much better when more of the ads you see are for stuff you don't want and would never want. Guys really should be seeing a lot more tampon ads.



Do you actually click on ads? I don't, so it doesn't really matter to me. If I want to buy something, I will know where to look and find it on my own. I don't even see ads either unless they are really malicious and tricky, but there is a database collecting information for ads anyway from amazon searches and the like. That should not happen imo.

Thought about using Ad Nauseum to generate fake clicks to hurt goolag, but it looks like too much work, plus you have to be able to see ads to do it in the first place iirc.


Goolag had to issue a refund to huge numbers of advertisers because of ad nauseum. It HURTS them bad. Its about the only say to hurt them.
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Do you actually click on ads?



When I want what they're advertising, yes.

This gives the advertising platforms data about what I want. Then, the next time they are going to show me an ad, they do a better job of choosing one. Which means I am more likely to click it.

Ad targeting is fucking awesome and saves me a lot of time. But, you know, that's because I buy things. People who don't buy things aren't giving any meaningful feedback to the advertisers, so the targeting is shit.

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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Do you actually click on ads?



When I want what they're advertising, yes.

This gives the advertising platforms data about what I want. Then, the next time they are going to show me an ad, they do a better job of choosing one. Which means I am more likely to click it.

Ad targeting is fucking awesome and saves me a lot of time. But, you know, that's because I buy things. People who don't buy things aren't giving any meaningful feedback to the advertisers, so the targeting is shit.



I dont think I have ever bought anything by clicking on an ad in my life.
Posted 9/14/17 , edited 9/15/17

cdarklock wrote:

When I want what they're advertising, yes.




Sounds like a good way to get viruses.

I buy stuff too. It doesn't take some special effort to look up something I want. Much better than relying on some corporate machine to tell me what I might be interested in, all while tossing any concept of privacy into the garbage.
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Sounds like a good way to get viruses.



Targeted advertising is objectively safer than untargeted advertising. If you buy from ads, advertisers will pay more to advertise at you. And when advertisers will pay more, the shitty advertisers that crap up your machine with viruses and malware and thirty tracking pixels can't afford to show you ads anymore.

See, their demographic is fucking morons. But if you legitimately think third-party cookies are a violation of your privacy rights, and you turn them off, you're literally impossible to distinguish from some dumbass who heard they were a kind of virus and was too stupid to know any better.

And that dumbass is statistically likely to click on banners that say "IS YUOR PC RUNINNG SLOW OR BEIGN WIERD?" because he's a fucking moron. Since untargeted advertising is cheap, the kind of company that advertises with those banners will merrily throw them in your face all day long.

But when they try to target a demographic, they are not coming after me with my long history of buying nonfiction books about cognition and consciousness. I'm never going to click their banner, and they know it. So I never see it, ever.
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