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The moral spectrum
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Obviously there are standards by societies rules of what is and isn't right but what are YOU as a person and what you think deep down, believe you are? Would you say you're more of a hero, anti-hero, or villain?

(For clarification when I say villain I don't mean flat out genocide, I'd like to hope no one here is like that lol)
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I'm not sure I am more of anything over anything else. I try to be a good person but I know I have very dark thoughts that would certainly place me in the anti-hero/villain categories. I simply don't act on those thoughts since they have consequences attached to them.
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I'm a villainous hero.
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I try not to think of myself as a hero. Otherwise, I might do horrible things. Most, including me, are perhaps morally apathetic civilians, shambling about their lives, doing nothing of great moral consideration.
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anti-hero
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I'm more like Uatu. I watch other people do whatever they do. Sometimes I tell people how to be better people, but when they keep right on being shitty, I don't really give a damn.
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I'd say I'm a hero, if those are the categories we're using, but maybe a hero-in-training is more accurate. I try to take care of myself and the people I'm responsible for, and I try to help others when I can. I do what I can to keep bad things from happening to other people, and I try to stop people from doing bad things.

On the other hand, I think we can all agree that there's darkness in the heart of everyone. I'm a scumbag sometimes, even though I don't want to be. Every person is a beautiful, unique piece of art that is simultaneously broken and flawed. No matter how hard we try, we'll never be a hero all the time, but I think we should all strive for it. That's why I'd say I'm a hero-in-training.

I think being a hero doesn't have to be glamorous. Recently, a little girl lost her shoe over a fence, I hopped the fence and got it back for her. As I was going up to my apartment the other night, I saw a woman punching the crap out of a guy's face who was trying to get into a car, so I called the police. My mom had a hard day today, so I made dinner for her and my dad. Those are all little acts of heroism that mean a lot to me, even though they aren't that big a deal. It's the attitude that counts, I think, not the magnitude.

At the end of the day, treat people the way you would want them to treat you in a similar situation. That's pretty much my moral compass.
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Lol at everyone pretending that people can be exclusively one thing. The reality of the world is that everyone is doing what they feel is right for them at that point in time. There are no evil mastermind villains out chilling in super villain hideouts cackling evily while rubbing their hand and exclaiming "GOOOD GOOOOOD" while basking in their malice.

There are no such things as heroes either.

There are only people following what they feel is right for them at the time.

Let me put this train of thought for you guys to ponder.

When a soldier or policeman goes off to answer the call of duty and they get killed. Does that make them a hero? Does that make the killer of said person a villain? Does giving the policeman/soldier a posthumous awarding of medals and honors that are essentially meaningless make him a hero?? Does the fact that our theoretical policeman/soldier is now "a hero" excuse the wanton disregard for the lives of these individuals?
Is not the badge and "honor" of being a hero a tool used by the rulers of society in order to justify that a males life is worthless and can be "paid off" by simply declaring that our side(soldier/policeman) is a hero.

Does that not also imply that the "other side"(be it the opposing military,the opposing gang member, etc) is automatically labelled a villain.

Who is right and who is wrong?

What about The person that killed our soldier, the "villain" of this story, from his theoretical perspective he was following orders from his military leaders (foreign military/terrorist group/cartel). He was doing what he though was right at the time and if he didn't kill our soldier/policeman then he would of been dead.


So if the roles reversed and our man was alive and theirs dead.
Would our policeman or soldier then be seen as a villain from our of view? NO! He would be seen as doing his duty. But from the "opposing sides" point of view our guy IS the villain.

My main point here is these labels do not describe reality. These are tools used for the convenience of culture and they serve a purpose that does not empower or protect us. They serve to justify the deaths of millions of young men in wars old fuckers in power started.
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Thug_Apple wrote:

Lol at everyone pretending that people can be exclusively one thing. The reality of the world is that everyone is doing what they feel is right for them at that point in time. There are no evil mastermind villains out chilling in super villain hideouts cackling evily while rubbing their hand and exclaiming "GOOOD GOOOOOD" while basking in their malice.

There are no such things as heroes either.

There are only people following what they feel is right for them at the time.

Let me put this train of thought for you guys to ponder.

When a soldier or policeman goes off to answer the call of duty and they get killed. Does that make them a hero? Does that make the killer of said person a villain? Does giving the policeman/soldier a posthumous awarding of medals and honors that are essentially meaningless make him a hero?? Does the fact that our theoretical policeman/soldier is now "a hero" excuse the wanton disregard for the lives of these individuals?
Is not the badge and "honor" of being a hero a tool used by the rulers of society in order to justify that a males life is worthless and can be "paid off" by simply declaring that our side(soldier/policeman) is a hero.

Does that not also imply that the "other side"(be it the opposing military,the opposing gang member, etc) is automatically labelled a villain.

Who is right and who is wrong?

What about The person that killed our soldier, the "villain" of this story, from his theoretical perspective he was following orders from his military leaders (foreign military/terrorist group/cartel). He was doing what he though was right at the time and if he didn't kill our soldier/policeman then he would of been dead.


So if the roles reversed and our man was alive and theirs dead.
Would our policeman or soldier then be seen as a villain from our of view? NO! He would be seen as doing his duty. But from the "opposing sides" point of view our guy IS the villain.

My main point here is these labels do not describe reality. These are tools used for the convenience of culture and they serve a purpose that does not empower or protect us. They serve to justify the deaths of millions of young men in wars old fuckers in power started.


It's called subjective belief everyone realises morals and right and wrong are subjective.
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How could this smiling face be anything other than a hero?
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I am a morally upright person.

I live by the categorical imperative.

If everybody else did the action you are contemplating and the effect is undesirable, it is wrong.

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Totally anti-villain.
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More of an anti-hero. I'm heavily flawed and cynical from a less than pleasant past. I tend to go about my life on my own terms. My selfish disposition often entails only caring for those close to me. While wanting to do relative good at times, I tend to coldly disregard others. My rhetoric about friendships and other people are often embodied with disbelief, mockery, and downright anger. Distant, arrogant, and often insulting of others are what I may come across to most. I will say things trying to reflect my pain onto others--more so my SO.



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I don't really fit any of the offered categories. If I was to choose a label I am closest to, it would be the old RPG "Lawful Neutral" description.

I strive to obey the law and I try not to harm others but I don't go out of my way to help others outside of my work environment.

However as already pointed out above, any system that can generalise morality into a few labels won't be capable of covering every nuance.
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Eh i dont realy know. I pay my taxes, abide by the law (for the most part), dont wrong do anyone.
Not a villain or a hero. I stand on my own two, dont go out of my way to help others nor require much help, dont go out of my way to screw over or wrong do anyone.
Iam white and i hate SJW's so maybe iam a villain? lol

Um sometimes in movies and anime and video games i like the villain more than the hero and i like gangsta rap.
But i've always enjoyed being the hero in RPG's so maybe deep down iam a hero?

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