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What do YOU really think of the alt right?
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

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official-shinsengumi wrote:

The far right are the ones going around saying things like 'oh Obama was the Antichrist' 'hey ya'll lets go boycott Starbucks by BUYING coffee from there so they can write 'trump' on it because we think they oppressed one uf us and didn't give them coffee! Oh yeah, so logical..


Do you mean by buying? Both sides are equally to blame for such silly behavior. I remember years ago Alt left groups boycotting orange juice because sensationalist Rush limbaugh(I think thats how his name is spelled?) supported the orange juice industry.


Fixed it!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/living/trump-cup-starbucks/index.html

Omg

If people really want to protest or boycott something, they should probably figure out how to do it correctly lol

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Surely you're talking about the far left? To whom common sense and logic and reality dose not apply AT ALL?
All they do is speak and act out emotions.


Neither left nor right utilizes common sense or logic at all.
They both have their extreme "cells" and do nothing to disassociate from them as these "extreme groups" that have either reached or are nearing domestic terrorists.
They choose to remain neutral (or even support) these groups as they're looking for a "voice" to resonate with their personal views.
This becomes expanded even further when you look at some of the boycotting that both sides do to try to "hit the pockets" of either people they disagree with or companies that have stated a differing opinion publically.
Unfortunately, these people seem to be so short-sighted that they think their boycotts genuinely cause much of an issue for larger corporations.

It's all emotion.
It lacks common sense.
It lacks foresight.
And it's absolutely asinine.

The alt-right is a combination of the "extreme" groups like the KKK and other white supremacist groups, as well as just the general Internet trolls/shitposters from /r/The_Donald, /pol/, and such.
The problem is that the media positions the alt-right as only white supremacists or neo-nazi groups.
Similar to how the right media positions all leftists (or "alt-left" as President Trump had indicated) are related to ANTIFA and black bloc protesters.

If anything, it goes to show just how emotionally invested both sides are that they fail to utilize any sort of logic in their understanding of their surroundings.
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

official-shinsengumi wrote:

Fixed it!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/living/trump-cup-starbucks/index.html

Omg

If people really want to protest or boycott something, they should probably figure out how to do it correctly lol



lol sorry just trying to help you so the trolls don't take you apart for it. I agree that protest/boycotting on both sides has gotten a bit silly. Personally I think the "group" tactics on both sides kinda needs to go away. Mob mentality rarely works our well. What we need these days is people who don't need to go out and join a group but can have civil discourse and think on their own. But I guess that's not "Fight the power" enough for today's generations.
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The justification i spoke of was in regards to the concerns of the left or non "alt right". These concerns are in regards to the actual existence of an alt right. Your post doesn't explicitly say this, but it implies that you believe these concerns hold no weight and you dismiss their existence and thus the existence of the alt right is reduced to a mere misunderstanding (originating in the left) of a bunch of pepe memes ? You clearly state that you don't even believe in the existence of the alt right and your reasoning behind that (a misunderstanding of memes) is the reason I'm in disbelief.


Ah! Okay, I understand now. Yes, that's pretty much what I think. The only thing I might add is that the actual, serious, non-memeing alt-right is maybe made up of 50,000 people, max. So they do exist, there are just so few of them they don't matter very much.
Since you think the alt-right is a reason for concern, what leads you to believe this? And what are your concerns?
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I'm being dead serious here. I'm pretty sure the alt-right is mostly Pepe memes. Like, I'm pretty sure someone made a meme, an ordinary news person found it and made a story about it, which spawned more meme, which spawned more stories... etc. Then the like seventeen people with actual, serious, "alt-right" views were like, "Oh wow, there must be a lot more of us than we thought! Yeah, alt-right!"

Does anybody else get this feeling?

. The left tried to insult a bunch of shitposters, nontraditional republicans, and Trump supporters. Calling us neo-cons, christian nutjiobs, and all their normal terminology didn't work so they invented a new scare term to label us as. Our shitposters found it hilarious then took their terminology and memeified it. The left then believed it was a real thing and waged a war against it back when it was literally a 4chan joke and started chucking everyone they didn't like into the alt-right bandwagon.

I am only part of the alt-right when it has the pote trial to annoy a leftists :P


This! This right here. Perfect explanation. Thank you.
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DevinKuska wrote:


official-shinsengumi wrote:

Fixed it!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/living/trump-cup-starbucks/index.html

Omg

If people really want to protest or boycott something, they should probably figure out how to do it correctly lol



lol sorry just trying to help you so the trolls don't take you apart for it. I agree that protest/boycotting on both sides has gotten a bit silly. Personally I think the "group" tactics on both sides kinda needs to go away. Mob mentality rarely works our well. What we need these days is people who don't need to go out and join a group but can have civil discourse and think on their own. But I guess that's not "Fight the power" enough for today's generations.


This is an extremely good point and needs to be read more.
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

DevinKuska wrote:


official-shinsengumi wrote:

Fixed it!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/living/trump-cup-starbucks/index.html

Omg

If people really want to protest or boycott something, they should probably figure out how to do it correctly lol



lol sorry just trying to help you so the trolls don't take you apart for it. I agree that protest/boycotting on both sides has gotten a bit silly. Personally I think the "group" tactics on both sides kinda needs to go away. Mob mentality rarely works our well. What we need these days is people who don't need to go out and join a group but can have civil discourse and think on their own. But I guess that's not "Fight the power" enough for today's generations.


The boycotting will get worse. Originally leftists started attacking trump supporters and getting them fired from work for mass complaining even if they had never worked there or trying to frame them as NAZI. Lots of were PISSED but the people mass reporting were mostly unemployed so we couldn't do shit. Then they continued with their boycotts of any company that supports moderate, libertarian, or conservative ideas like they were doing during Obamas term. Well people finally got some balls and started counter protesting and using the liberal tactics that work so well against them. We have had many of the boycotts work.

We have had businesses say that Trump supporters are not welcome at their stores and I am not talking about small stores but national stores. We said fuck them, boycotted them, their profits plummeted, CEO got fired, we then started buying again. If stores dont want boycotts then dont take sides and just make money, which will in turn cause liberals to attack you...


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Prone to buying into absurd conspiracy theories.


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It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Couldn't agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.
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It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Could agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.


"And its funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against conservatives and keep white people out of PoC safe spaces get so butt hurt when people do the same to their pet LGBTQP/minorities. Some even threw a fit because of internet jokes about Michelle Obama being transgender."




Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

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prh99 wrote:
It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Could agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.


"And its funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against conservatives and keep white people out of PoC safe spaces get so butt hurt when people do the same to their pet LGBTQP/minorities. Some even threw a fit because of internet jokes about Michelle Obama being transgender."




Racist and trans/homophobic thanks for pretty much conceding my point about the alt right. Why would a white person want in to a PoC safe space anyway?


Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

prh99 wrote:
Why would a white person want in to a PoC safe space anyway?




Why would a gay person want to buy a cake from someone that disapproves of their marriage? Why would a black person want to shop at a "Whites Only" store?
Why would people who larp as civil rights activists who fought against segregation be pro self segregation?
Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

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prh99 wrote:
Why would a white person want in to a PoC safe space anyway?




Why would a gay person want to buy a cake from someone that disapproves of their marriage? Why would a black person want to shop at a "Whites Only" store?
Why would people who larp as civil rights activists who fought against segregation be pro self segregation?


PoC safe spaces usually aren't entire businesses and when they are at Universities or other public forums they allow white people to comply with discrimination laws.
When you open a store the expectation is you're open to everyone. Also we've had anti-discrimination laws on the books for awhile cause certain groups where put at a disadvantage when people where allowed to discriminate.

Self segregation is a lot different than forced segregation. People self segregate all the time.
Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

prh99 wrote:

and when they are at Universities or other public forums they allow white people to comply with discrimination laws.


Only after stories about it garnered international attention and brought unwanted focus on said universities, and even then that isn't always the case. Were you asleep during all the shit going down at Evergreen a few months ago when "PoC" wanted to force white students to not attend classes for a day with threats of violence?


When you open a store the expectation is you're open to everyone. Also we've had anti-discrimination laws on the books for awhile cause certain groups where put at a disadvantage when people where allowed to discriminate.


That doesn't answer the question. Why would a gay couple want to possibly get a loogie cake?


Self segregation is a lot different than forced segregation. People self segregate all the time.


And when white people do it it gets called racist white flight. When white people move in to minority neighborhoods its called racist gentrification.
When minorities do it its called "safe spaces" and "diversity".


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Just as mediocre and small brained as those on the alt left.
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