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You were being an asshole to the entirety of CCA 4th Armored (the head of the relief force), CCB 10th Armored, CCR 9th Armored, and the USAAF, while stating flagrant untruths about history, so yes, I *will* be an asshole when I call you out for making an asshole-ish claim.



In what world is a Band of Brothers reference being an asshole to anyone?
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outontheop wrote:



You were being an asshole to the entirety of CCA 4th Armored (the head of the relief force), CCB 10th Armored, CCR 9th Armored, and the USAAF, while stating flagrant untruths about history, so yes, I *will* be an asshole when I call you out for making an asshole-ish claim.



In what world is a Band of Brothers reference being an asshole to anyone?


Oh, I'm sorry, were we talking about history, or having a "let's misquote random films and television without citation or any form of indication that we are making a badly rephrased quote and not an incredibly incorrect and dick-ish condemnation of historical persons" thread? It wasn't even a correct quote from the series; the character said they "Didn't need rescuing" in a throwaway dismissal of a newspaper reporter, not that the relief forces were "idiots".

As for how it's being an asshole? Really? Completely writing off the efforts of the USAAF and armored units involved in the battle to heap yet more praise on a unit that has long claimed more than their fair share of the credit isn't?
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outontheop wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:


outontheop wrote:



You were being an asshole to the entirety of CCA 4th Armored (the head of the relief force), CCB 10th Armored, CCR 9th Armored, and the USAAF, while stating flagrant untruths about history, so yes, I *will* be an asshole when I call you out for making an asshole-ish claim.



In what world is a Band of Brothers reference being an asshole to anyone?


Oh, I'm sorry, were we talking about history, or having a "let's misquote random films and television without citation or any form of indication that we are making a badly rephrased quote and not an incredibly incorrect and dick-ish condemnation of historical persons" thread? It wasn't even a correct quote from the series; the character said they "Didn't need rescuing" in a throwaway dismissal of a newspaper reporter, not that the relief forces were "idiots".

As for how it's being an asshole? Really? Completely writing off the efforts of the USAAF and armored units involved in the battle to heap yet more praise on a unit that has long claimed more than their fair share of the credit isn't?


On a lighter note, I just read Antony Beevor's 2015 history, Ardennes 1944 : Hitler's Last Gamble last month. A good read with some new perspectives on the battle. Beevor is an excellent historian, though the man does have his biases.

As to the spat between you two, the inordinate attention given to the 101st is understandable on many levels, even if it is unfair to the other troops inside the perimeter.The airborne divisions were some of the glamour units of the US Military, so you start there. Then there's the matter of the commander at Bastogne being Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe, who'd assumed command in the absence of Max Taylor. Result was that the commander of the 101st commanded the defense of Bastogne. And McAuliffe's reply of "Nuts!" to the German surrender demand is the stuff of legend.

As to "Band of Brothers", it is an outstanding history, and an outstanding mini-series. HOWEVER, it must be understood that it is the war as seen through the eyes of a single company of a single battalion of a single regiment of a single airborne division. It is a history of Easy Company; it is not meant to be a concise history of the battles Easy Company participated in.

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