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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/17/17
http://www.animeherald.com/2017/09/14/megaton-harmony-gold-loses-the-rights-to-macross-in-2021/

So yeah, this tidbit popped up on my news feed today. Essentially, after March 14, 2021, the original license holder for Macross, Tatsunoko Publishing, Ltd, will be able to revoke or cancel the current license held by Harmony Gold for the Macross franchise and all derivatives (including, I am lead to understand, the modern entries to the franchise such as Frontier and Delta).

Basically this means that after 2021 it is possible for a new licensor to get the rights to Macross and legally license the series in the US, something that series fans have been wanting to happen for a long time.

Nothing will happen right away of course, but it definitely gives me hope that the next licensor would be willing to localize the series for the US and give greater exposure to what is effectively one of the greatest scifi/mecha franchises outside of Gundam.

I'll open this up for discussion. Your thoughts?
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/17/17
I just hope I live that long to see it.
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/17/17
HOLY SHIT!! If this is true, then this will be the best news of the year!!
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/17/17

curr0001 wrote:

I just hope I live that long to see it.


About 3 1/2 years from now, not sure how old you are or what your health situation is but its not that long in the grand scheme of things. Shorter than a US President's term of office (though I shan't mention my thoughts on THAT particular subject for various reasons)

Given that Shoji Kawamori and pretty much all of the staff on Frontier and Delta expressed a strong desire to license in the US, and equally strong frustration at HG for keeping that from happening, I would think that an immediate re-release of those two series is in the cards. Hell they might even start preparing for it now, given that we now have a definite time limit for HG's copyright stranglehold. So yeah, barring something like stage IV cancer or a surprise visit from Truck-kun I'd reckon most of us will be around to see the benefits.
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Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/17/17
inb4 Anime Strike nabs this in 2021
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MyGFPushedMeOffACliff wrote:


curr0001 wrote:

I just hope I live that long to see it.


About 3 1/2 years from now, not sure how old you are or what your health situation is but its not that long in the grand scheme of things. Shorter than a US President's term of office (though I shan't mention my thoughts on THAT particular subject for various reasons)

Given that Shoji Kawamori and pretty much all of the staff on Frontier and Delta expressed a strong desire to license in the US, and equally strong frustration at HG for keeping that from happening, I would think that an immediate re-release of those two series is in the cards. Hell they might even start preparing for it now, given that we now have a definite time limit for HG's copyright stranglehold. So yeah, barring something like stage IV cancer or a surprise visit from Truck-kun I'd reckon most of us will be around to see the benefits.


I'm pretty sure i"ll be alive barring truck-kun or any heath concerns. .
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/17/17
heres hoping Funimation or Sentai stand ready with a couple of suitcases filled with money the second that lisence expires! :p

Harmony gold have been sitting on that liscense for far far far to long without doing anything with it.

Robotech was my first experience with anime, back in 1990, so i'm definently gratefull to them for releasing it, but *profanity rant* atleat do something with the IP don't just sit on it for 30 years! :p
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/18/17
If this is true, then I shall be counting down the days.
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Posted 9/19/17 , edited 9/19/17
OMG. i never, ever thought this would happen.
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Posted 9/19/17 , edited 9/19/17
But the robotech!
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Posted 9/19/17 , edited 9/20/17

jtjumper wrote:

But the robotech!


Not to worry. It seems that in the end the legal decision took into consideration the differences between the original Macross intellectual property and the somewhat modified Robotech, and considered them to be two separate IPs. Harmony Gold actually gets to keep ownership of Robotech, but they can't block Tatsunoko from separately licensing entries in the Macross franchise that have little to nothing to do with the original Robotech derived from the original SDF Macross anime from the 80s. Any Macross series from 2000 onward (including Frontier and Delta) will likely fall under the IP retained by Tatsunoko, but HG gets to keep IP rights for their altered version of Macross as Robotech, along with anything derived from that.

Its a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo that even I found hard to wrap my head around, but whatever helps bring the franchise to the states. It seems Macross Delta brought in and is still bringing in stacks to Kawamori and Studio Satelight (mostly thanks to live shows by JUNNA, the real idol group that did the singing voices for Delta's fictional group Walkure), this probably provided the financial backing they needed to take HG to court over the disputed license, while the increasing demand for the series Stateside provided justification to pursue the case and proof that HG sitting on the copyright was causing financial damage in the form of an entire consumer base being off-limits.

Honestly I don't really give a damn how it happened or the legal element behind it - all I know is that I want Macross to get the recognition it rightfully deserves among anime fans in the States, and honestly I think a lot more people would love it if they were aware it existed (I mean yeah, the whole singing/foldspace/deculture whatever can be kind of confusing, but c'mon, who doesn't love huge $%&$ing space battles with fighter jets transforming into goddamn robots, and the crack pilots who fly them? I actually got my parents to watch an episode of Delta despite them being complete anime noobs - they're both suckers for scifi and action series, and while they didn't understand what Kaname singing had to do with the situation, they were impressed at the dogfight between Lloyd and Messer up to and including SPOILER, lol)
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Posted 9/20/17 , edited 9/20/17
oh my... 4 more years !!! Hope for the best ...and someone else revive Macross
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Posted 4/25/18 , edited 4/26/18
I'm starting a countdown clock right NOW!!!!
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Posted 4/26/18 , edited 4/26/18
Well we've waited this long what's another 4 years.
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Posted 4/26/18 , edited 4/26/18
This could be great news

There is money to be made and hopefully fans get a look at the storied franchise !
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