First  Prev  1  2  3  4  Next  Last
Post Reply FREE SPEECH WEEK Sept 24-27
Guest Pass Litter Moderator
121166 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F / Boston-ish
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17

Rujikin wrote:



Might want to rephrase that to be less offensive. Leftists will report your post to try and get you banned even if you didn't insult them directly. They focus on silencing us and baiting us into getting g banned.


It's not just "leftists" who would report for that kind of slur, and the additional mockery that was in the "PS."
23740 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
The White House
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17

Cydoemus wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Remember the whole Charlottesville "alt-right" protest? No one had heard of it either till the day before and it wasn't on any of the libertarian or trump circles. Normally such events are all over the place and when they aren't its kind of strange. The Charlottesville protest was pretty much a trap and some people rushed there to show up but then got trapped with a bunch of NAZI and put into a warzone.

So when an event is going on and no one is talking about it we are suspicious that its another trap, there have been a few traps set.


I've noticed these kinds of "trap protests" coming from both sides of the aisle.
Charlottesville was one of them for the right (trap them, have a few white supremacists and KKK members in there to create the distinction).
Some of the rallies/protests that ANTIFA arrived at were the same for the leftists trying to be casual with their protests (only for war to break out).
Regarding "Free Speech Week", the organization that was their originating/founding partner is heavily funded by the Koch Brothers, which has caused some people to be put off from it.
It does not help that there are rallies at heavy left locations as if they were inviting trouble.


Rujikin wrote:

Might want to rephrase that to be less offensive. Leftists will report your post to try and get you banned even if you didn't insult them directly. They focus on silencing us and baiting us into getting g banned.


I would rephrase this a tad.
When responding, just respond with tact.
If one is tactful in their engagements, it doesn't warrant a ban or otherwise as long as it's sensible and mature.
Some of the heavy-right and heavy-left have been banned for responding in such a classless way that it doesn't warrant intellectual conversation on the matter (or even contribute whatsoever).
A good example of this was the comments made by another user regarding Melania Trump and a billboard; except, he hasn't been banned (as nobody had reported it).

Sensibility, common sense, and tact are the only things required to post on a public forum.
Responding in such a tasteless, classless way just shows there's nothing of value in your comments and that you're simply responding based on your personal bias or desire to troll.


I'm pretty sure antifa's core are a bunch of paid thugs that are suppose to cause violence and distill a sense of chaos and unrest. I've seen tons of shit but of the ones arrested many of them are not employed with any regular business. If you see regular people doing this you have tons of companies they work for public ally firing them. This has not happened with antifa much despite the MANY arrests. I'm pretty sure they are trying to stir the left up to violence. We really dont want to fall for the same bullshit ourselves.

I've been stalked and had every single one of my posts reported by certain people till it just stopped, think the mods got sick of it. Every person that's done this has been a super leftist. I dont have it happen an absurd amount from anyone else. So yes it is leftists I am concerned about as they try to get you banned to stop you from talking. Really wish we could just discuss issues without having ban wars but such is the current situation that was created.
mxdan 
12223 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / A Husk.
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17

dulun18 wrote:

According to this site http://www.freespeechweek.org/ Free Speech Week is on October 16-22 but i heard it's September 24-27 instead?


Ben Shapiro LIVE at UC Berkeley (Lecture starts at 29:08)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elqhp99Fz0I

I didn't know about Ben Shapiro until now. It looks like people like him will be coming to Berkeley to speak though out the whole week. I would like to see Dinesh D'Souza at Berkely as well.

Dinesh D'Souza LIVE at Brandeis University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UTxBKQXRhE

"no mask" law worked well from the look of it. The same law is coming out in Arizona along with 6 months in jail for violent riots . No income + being in jail for 6 months? it's something not many will be willing to risk just for some thrills

.




So I tried watching the Ben Speech. Instantly triggered when he attributes the safety precautions as a partisan issue. Which sort of highlights my problem with him in general. He's smart, but he only applies his logic to reaffirm his notions. You'll notice him making generalizations and half truths in most his speeches. He dances around issues to make them political because his job is to get people emotional and make things more political.

Back to my initial point that he is smart. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's more successful then he's ever been and a lot of it has to do with an intelligent person applying and twisting logic towards one direction knowing full well if they were to ponder on things that they can easily rationalize themselves out of heavy partisanship and adopt more rational stances.

This is something that happens on the left as well, btw, so don't think I'm just dismissive cause he's conservative.

3871 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17


Milo is cumming ? that was funny wow. That's an example of adult-child. Body of an adult but brain of a child.

I will bet you $100 that he will attack other people when they keep laughing at him. Berkeley is only 47 miles or so from San Jose, I think i can go there next week and see what it is like in person.



31437 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
26 / M / Massachusetts, Un...
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
Isn't it always free speech in America?
67837 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
32 / M / Glendale, AZ
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
While I am a fan of free speech, I do believe it's not absolute*. There are times perhaps one could ideally put some restraint their opinions to where they won't necessarily suffer a backlash. By restraint, I talking about being wise in what you say but not necessarily be politically correct. Another thing to remember is that right- and left-wing hate speech is legal provided you don't incite violence. Also, as First Amendment applies to Congress not placing laws on such speech is I think tolerable (depending on what's said and the consequences).

*When you incite violence (too bad we don't necessarily have a nationalized standard for that) or cause panic (the classical "fire!" in a crowded theater), that's where the feds can step in.
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17

kadmos1 wrote:

While I am a fan of free speech, I do believe it's not absolute*.

*When you incite violence (too bad we don't necessarily have a nationalized standard for that) or cause panic (the classical "fire!" in a crowded theater), that's where the feds can step in.


Depends on the context. There's a reason BLM protestors were able to freely march around saying 'kill whitey, kill cops' etc. Incitement only applies to imminent acts of lawlessness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

The U.S. Supreme Court reversed Brandenburg's conviction, holding that government cannot constitutionally punish abstract advocacy of force or law violation.


Also the yelling fire in the theater thing isn't illegal either, since it is pretty much impossible to prove you were trying to incite imminent lawless action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action



32415 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / United States
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
Why exactly is this a thing? Technically speaking, every day is free speech day in the United States.
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17

Elektrolysis wrote:

Why exactly is this a thing? Technically speaking, every day is free speech day in the United States.


This is why

15825 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
23 / AH / Helipad
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
Every week is free speech week. 'Merica.
mxdan 
12223 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / A Husk.
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/19/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


Elektrolysis wrote:

Why exactly is this a thing? Technically speaking, every day is free speech day in the United States.


This is why






Here is some images of protest at Berkeley in the 60's:





Police removed a student from Sproul Hall where students were holding an all-night sit-in at U.C. Berkeley in 1964. The demonstration was the culmination of one of the most seminal protests of the Free Speech Movement, after a student was arrested for handing out information on civil rights on campus. Nearly 800 students were arrested as part of the sit-in...






Get the picture?

Let me clarify. Berkeley by and large has peaceful protests. You're allowing the isolated instances that have occurred within the last couple of months as a reaction to partisanship to dictate your ideas about the aggregate. Your image makes a statement about Berkeley being anti-free speech. Berkeley as an institution allows people to speak and the people in majority don't accept that images illusions.

So what you have is literally wrong in almost every way you look at it. It's propaganda and your no better then the Antifa mouth breathers by posting that around.
1245 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / New Jersey
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
If we have a "free speech week" then I am going to use it to demand that every single day outside of said week, if some voices their opinion they will be punished by the strictest level of the law.
1081 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17

mxdan wrote:


dulun18 wrote:

According to this site http://www.freespeechweek.org/ Free Speech Week is on October 16-22 but i heard it's September 24-27 instead?


Ben Shapiro LIVE at UC Berkeley (Lecture starts at 29:08)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elqhp99Fz0I

I didn't know about Ben Shapiro until now. It looks like people like him will be coming to Berkeley to speak though out the whole week. I would like to see Dinesh D'Souza at Berkely as well.

Dinesh D'Souza LIVE at Brandeis University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UTxBKQXRhE

"no mask" law worked well from the look of it. The same law is coming out in Arizona along with 6 months in jail for violent riots . No income + being in jail for 6 months? it's something not many will be willing to risk just for some thrills

.




So I tried watching the Ben Speech. Instantly triggered when he attributes the safety precautions as a partisan issue. Which sort of highlights my problem with him in general. He's smart, but he only applies his logic to reaffirm his notions. You'll notice him making generalizations and half truths in most his speeches. He dances around issues to make them political because his job is to get people emotional and make things more political.

Back to my initial point that he is smart. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's more successful then he's ever been and a lot of it has to do with an intelligent person applying and twisting logic towards one direction knowing full well if they were to ponder on things that they can easily rationalize themselves out of heavy partisanship and adopt more rational stances.

This is something that happens on the left as well, btw, so don't think I'm just dismissive cause he's conservative.



You don't have to make excuses for accurately identifying a consistently dishonest charlatan making money off the ignorant and the emotionally immature.
379 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
41 / M / Midlothian, Texas
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
This makes me want to cuss people out for being so ignorant and fooled by things like "Free Speech Week". In the U.S., "Free Speech Week" is EVERY FUCKING WEEK. THAT IS, if you actually EXERCISE YOUR inalienable rights rather than forfeit them to George W. Bush's Un-Patriotic Act and the like. F*#$ng stupid assed Americans don't even know what the 1st Amendment of the Constituion declares...
the 2 party system has used free speech to enslave the suckers who can't bring themselves what it means to be a FREE LIVING HUMAN BEING.
70 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
Unless these people are getting arrested and jailed for their views by the government, they had free speech. People protesting you isn't taking away your free speech, it just allowing everyone to express how they think.
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.