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Post Reply New Catalog Titles: Tenchi Muyo! Tenchi in Tokyo, Kaleido Star: New Wings, Noir
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Posted 9/24/17
Noir is good show, but i love the sound track a lot better lol.
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Posted 9/24/17

lawdog wrote:


Tenchi in Tokyo...well, the best most can say about it is that it isn't as good as Universe or the OVA. In my not so humble opinion, it is the worst of all the Tenchi series. Ranking behind OVA, Geminar, GXP and Universe. It does have some fans, but most critics and fans rank it behind all the other continuities.


I agree entirely. It's the weakest of all of them. You're not missing much by skipping it.

NOIR on the other hand is great. Very dark. At times Depressing. Great soundtrack.
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Posted 9/24/17 , edited 9/25/17
Yay!! More titles that I can't watch...
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motytrah wrote:


lawdog wrote:


Tenchi in Tokyo...well, the best most can say about it is that it isn't as good as Universe or the OVA. In my not so humble opinion, it is the worst of all the Tenchi series. Ranking behind OVA, Geminar, GXP and Universe. It does have some fans, but most critics and fans rank it behind all the other continuities.


I agree entirely. It's the weakest of all of them. You're not missing much by skipping it.


So, it's weaker than GXP that doesn't even have any of the original CHARACTERS in it? Or the five-minute one produced by the tourism board?

More Tenchi Universe TV is good Tenchi Universe TV--Especially from back in the 90's-early 00's, when they were still the real show, and not the cheap title grabs.
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Ejanss wrote:
(And that's leaving aside the OVA-raised faction of the Tenchi fans, who look at Universe and say "No, no, no, it's shouldn't be a harem sitcom, it's an epic sci-fi saga!!")


*raises hand*

I am unafraid to admit that this is me. Negishi was the perfect director for Tekkaman Blade, but I will never understand why he got picked for the TV version of Tenchi.
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Ejanss wrote:


motytrah wrote:


lawdog wrote:


Tenchi in Tokyo...well, the best most can say about it is that it isn't as good as Universe or the OVA. In my not so humble opinion, it is the worst of all the Tenchi series. Ranking behind OVA, Geminar, GXP and Universe. It does have some fans, but most critics and fans rank it behind all the other continuities.


I agree entirely. It's the weakest of all of them. You're not missing much by skipping it.


So, it's weaker than GXP that doesn't even have any of the original CHARACTERS in it? Or the five-minute one produced by the tourism board?

More Tenchi Universe TV is good Tenchi Universe TV--Especially from back in the 90's-early 00's, when they were still the real show, and not the cheap title grabs.


Yes, it's weaker than GXP. And as someone who did watch all of TiT, it was bad, with poor and unrealistic character development, which violated everything that was basic about the characters in every continuity. The writers were just horrible and lazy.

And you're wrong: GXP did have the original cast appear in one episode. Also, a number of the cast of GXP would become CHARACTERS of OVA 3 and OVA 4.

The OVAverse had done a great job of starting to create an interesting world/universe for Tenchi, and GXP really expanded that universe. There's a reason why you should watch OVA 3 AFTER you watch GXP. Also, many of the GXP cast had been featured in Kajishima's "Kamidake Onsen" doujinshi series years before GXP came out, so they weren't strangers to the Japanese audience, and already had become established parts of the OVAverse.
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keiichimorisato988 wrote:

honestly, since it's not the dub of Tenchi, it's not worth watching. the english dub cast of Tenchi was far better than the Japanese cast, especially when it came to Washu and Ryohko.


Wrong!!

I will state one thing straight up: While I prefer the Japanese language versions, the English voice actress for Washu does an outstanding job.

And then we come to Petrea Buchard, who was the English VA for Ryoko, versus the magnificent Ai Orikasa.

All too often, the reaction I've seen when those used to the English dub here the original version for the first time, is something along the lines of "That's not Ryoko!"

The problem of course, is that Petrea Buchard's version is not Ryoko, and never has been.

That's not a diss at Ms. Buchard, who has a great voice. The problem is that the English version of Ryoko is infused by Ms. Buchard with a level of sensuality that was never intended for her character. The character lacks the playful immaturity given to it in the original version. The result is that dub version viewers often seem to have a problem reconciling how the character of Ryoko was intended to be designed...and then throw in that Yumi Takada's Ayeka doesn't have a snooty fake British accent, and the world view of how things are supposed to be usually gets rattled, in some cases, badly.
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Ejanss wrote:
So, it's weaker than GXP that doesn't even have any of the original CHARACTERS in it? Or the five-minute one produced by the tourism board?

More Tenchi Universe TV is good Tenchi Universe TV--Especially from back in the 90's-early 00's, when they were still the real show, and not the cheap title grabs.


I haven't rewatched Tenchi in Tokyo since I saw it for the first time in September 2000 on Toonami, but I'm still confident that GXP is a far better show. I even enjoyed Ai Tenchi Muyo more. As for the currently releasing fourth Ryoh-Ohki OVA... I guess it's what the core Japanese fans want? If it were a cheap cash grab I'd expect it to have a villain, action and adventure, but instead it's slice of life around Tenchi's father's remarriage.

To me this whole franchise came to symbolize anime not giving me what I want, in that Tenchi always either ends up with no one, or with someone I'd never have chosen (and in Tenchi Universe, can't even understand why Tenchi would). GXP ending is stupid, but much better than nothing, and vaguely better than an out-of-nowhere pairing at the last minute.

@lawdog I suspect/hope my opinion in the preceding paragraph may change somewhat when I finally rewatch everything in Japanese. At any rate everyone sounded fine to me in Ai Tenchi and OVA 4. Also I just this year found the original version of Dimension of Love / 恋愛の時空 and WOW

...I wish Sentai had got their actresses to do fake British accents for St. Gloriana in Girls und Panzer and Meroune in Monster Musume. Doesn't even matter if they sound fake, especially St. Gloriana since they're supposed to be a Japanese school mimicking British culture.
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Posted 9/25/17
And South America? <.<
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nDroae wrote:
I haven't rewatched Tenchi in Tokyo since I saw it for the first time in September 2000 on Toonami, but I'm still confident that GXP is a far better show. I even enjoyed Ai Tenchi Muyo more. As for the currently releasing fourth Ryoh-Ohki OVA... I guess it's what the core Japanese fans want? If it were a cheap cash grab I'd expect it to have a villain, action and adventure, but instead it's slice of life around Tenchi's father's remarriage.


Technically, "the" 90's-Tenchi finale (after Tokyo) was the third movie, Tenchi Forever, another slice-of-life where Tenchi mysteriously loses his memory and goes for another girl instead--Even after he recovers, we never find out at the end Who He Chose, but it's abstractly hinted that Ryoko was in the lead.

Everything between Forever and OVA 4 was AIC borrowing the house name to slap on anything they could sell with or without the characters or Jurai, and after Geminar and GXP, it was a big deal that the original creator got back on board with OVA 4. And yes, it was...about the characters and the Masaki household.
(Again, it's only the OVA "poseurs" who expect peww-peww space opera.)

Which, again, is probably the best reason to watch Tokyo to the end.
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@Ejanss I've felt ever since that if I were to rewatch Tenchi in Tokyo, knowing how it ends would itself make it a better experience. I just don't know whether I can make myself like that girl.
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AkashiXI wrote:

And South America? <.<

These are all Funimation titles (and older ones at that), which they tend to either have not had rights outside the US & Canada for, or already sub-licensed away the most important other parts (Australia/New Zealand and UK/Ireland) if they were there to begin with. The rest of the Americas wasn't even in Funimation's game plan when they licensed these.

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nDroae wrote:

@Ejanss I've felt ever since that if I were to rewatch Tenchi in Tokyo, knowing how it ends would itself make it a better experience. I just don't know whether I can make myself like that girl.


If you mean Tenchi's girl, ah, but now we know the REASON why she's so disturbingly "clingy", don't we?
A little context always helped those who stayed till the end of the series.

(Unless by "that girl" you meant the villain, and yeah, Creepy-Little-Girl villains are hit and miss, even if they do become friends with Sasami.)
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AkashiXI wrote: And South America? <.<

South America's benefit from the Crunchyroll/Funimation deal is that it tends to get the new simulcasts that Funimation and Crunchyroll jointly license, which tend to be licensed "Worldwide outside Asia".

There never was any serious prospect of South America getting much of anything from the Funimation catalog.
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Posted 9/26/17

CeruleanThorn wrote:

I love Kaleido Star! Yes!


Yeah, when I was writing anime reviews for Anime Advanced, they used a quote from my review on the box for the Kaleido Star thinpack boxset. I gave it glowing praise and it is still one of my favorite series ever. Although, I think the first season totally blows the second one out of the water; but season 2 was still very good.
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