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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 9/30/17

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Considering the delay and apathy Trump shows towards giving even the most simple and basic response to the Puerto Rico crisis especially when compared to the hurricanes in Flroida and Texas, I would say yes. Of course, that's only speculation, but I doubt even the most zealous Trump supprpter will deny the simple fact that he is not treating them with the same urgency as people on the mainland. These are still American taxpayers and they'r ein a situation much worse than Florida, so why does Florida get the preferrential treatment?


Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.
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the more important question is, why isn't any of our allies helping us besides mexico

the USA just got hit with multiple hurricanes, and needs help, mexico just got hit with a few quakes and still helps us

Britain france japan etc aren't sending aid


if they were in the same dilemma we would be helping them



this has nothing to do with being "white"


Thats not whats being discussed, and yes, it does have to do with being white or not. And don't say, just got hit with a few quakes. Dozens of people died, it was and is a tragedy. America should be able to aid its own territories, considering our own strength. Yet football players seem more important to the President than the fact that most Puerto Ricans don't even have electricity.


..first of, I used the word just because it did JUST get hit by quakes, ya know, like recently? hence the word just lol. and no it doesn't, there are a lot of blacks and Mexicans in texas and florida, yet we still sent aid, I think It has more to do with PR not being a state

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1. Puerto Rico has been the center of a humanitarian crisis for a week and is only just now getting some attention. Trump did not give even a remotely similarly invested response to the Puerto Rico crisis despite it being much worse, hence the suspicions of bias.

2. You're seriously arguing that there are as many people of colour per capita in Texas and Florida when compared to Puerto Rico? Do you know what Puerto Rico is?

3. What does it being a territory have to do with holding presidential responsibility for them at arms length? These are still Trump's people, they still pay taxes to him, so where's the justification for treating them like shit?

4. I don't care that you just got a game. That isn't even relevant to the topic at hand. Even by your standards.
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fema is already down there, more funding is going to them , it hasmore to do with legalities



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octorockandroll wrote:

Considering the delay and apathy Trump shows towards giving even the most simple and basic response to the Puerto Rico crisis especially when compared to the hurricanes in Flroida and Texas, I would say yes. Of course, that's only speculation, but I doubt even the most zealous Trump supprpter will deny the simple fact that he is not treating them with the same urgency as people on the mainland. These are still American taxpayers and they'r ein a situation much worse than Florida, so why does Florida get the preferrential treatment?


Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


Oh yeah, that explains why Trump was more preoccupied with acknowledging kneeling athletes than a humanitarian crisis. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Trump waives shipping restrictions for Puerto Rico for hurricane relief.. ask me that is a start, so he is doing far more than most of the other countries.

The Trump administration has already rushed military hardware and personnel to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands as the scale of the damage has become clear, along with the inadequacy of the federal response.
In the first six days after the hurricane made landfall in Puerto Rico as a Category 4 storm, the Navy had deployed just two ships, citing concerns that Puerto Rico’s ports were too damaged to accommodate numerous large vessels, The Washington Post reported Thursday. Reports of isolated U.S. citizens struggling in the heat without electricity and running low on food and water have now spurred the Pentagon to throw resources into the relief ­effort even though they have not been specifically requested by territorial officials.
The stepped-up response includes the deployment of the USNS Comfort, a hospital ship that has responded to other natural disasters.
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octorockandroll wrote:

1. Puerto Rico has been the center of a humanitarian crisis for a week and is only just now getting some attention. Trump did not give even a remotely similarly invested response to the Puerto Rico crisis despite it being much worse, hence the suspicions of bias.

2. You're seriously arguing that there are as many people of colour per capita in Texas and Florida when compared to Puerto Rico? Do you know what Puerto Rico is?

3. What does it being a territory have to do with holding presidential responsibility for them at arms length? These are still Trump's people, they still pay taxes to him, so where's the justification for treating them like shit?

4. I don't care that you just got a game. That isn't even relevant to the topic at hand. Even by your standards.


lol read what was being said I was giving an example of the word just, how I was using it, so they would understand @the video game part

2 no where did say there are more ppl of color in texas and florida, I was sayingblacks and Mexicans live there, didn't stop of from sending aid


do you also not take into account that we just got hit by 2 other hurricanes? we are still dealin with that, so of course its gonna take a tad longer for aid, ontop of that aid I already there there just isn't enough
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Then where is the aid? Hmm, perhaps you are right. I may have been presumptuous in my judgment. Its a tragedy unto itself! They need aid, yet its just not getting there. My, grand-aunt, is that the term, lives in Puerto Rico, and its very distressing for me to see those pictures and see how slowly aid is getting there. While our allies could, and probably should assist, in the end, this falls to us to handle. its Americans who are in danger, so its Americans who should be helping and saving them.
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this has nothing to do with being "white"


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Then where is the aid? Hmm, perhaps you are right. I may have been presumptuous in my judgment. Its a tragedy unto itself! They need aid, yet its just not getting there. My, grand-aunt, is that the term, lives in Puerto Rico, and its very distressing for me to see those pictures and see how slowly aid is getting there. While our allies could, and probably should assist, in the end, this falls to us to handle. its Americans who are in danger, so its Americans who should be helping and saving them.

considering the fact that PR just got hit with 2-3 hurricanes, and the mainland 3 hurricanes, we have a lot to deal with, it WOULD be different if t had jus tbeen one , you can only do so much so fast
also pr was in the travel path so when the mainland got hit how could we go help them? there is that too, like I said, it would be different if it had just been one hurricane

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redokami wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


redokami wrote:


RyukoKuroki wrote:

redokami wrote:


the more important question is, why isn't any of our allies helping us besides mexico

the USA just got hit with multiple hurricanes, and needs help, mexico just got hit with a few quakes and still helps us

Britain france japan etc aren't sending aid


if they were in the same dilemma we would be helping them



this has nothing to do with being "white"


Thats not whats being discussed, and yes, it does have to do with being white or not. And don't say, just got hit with a few quakes. Dozens of people died, it was and is a tragedy. America should be able to aid its own territories, considering our own strength. Yet football players seem more important to the President than the fact that most Puerto Ricans don't even have electricity.


..first of, I used the word just because it did JUST get hit by quakes, ya know, like recently? hence the word just lol. and no it doesn't, there are a lot of blacks and Mexicans in texas and florida, yet we still sent aid, I think It has more to do with PR not being a state

example : I just got a video game


1. Puerto Rico has been the center of a humanitarian crisis for a week and is only just now getting some attention. Trump did not give even a remotely similarly invested response to the Puerto Rico crisis despite it being much worse, hence the suspicions of bias.

2. You're seriously arguing that there are as many people of colour per capita in Texas and Florida when compared to Puerto Rico? Do you know what Puerto Rico is?

3. What does it being a territory have to do with holding presidential responsibility for them at arms length? These are still Trump's people, they still pay taxes to him, so where's the justification for treating them like shit?

4. I don't care that you just got a game. That isn't even relevant to the topic at hand. Even by your standards.


lol read what was being said I was giving an example of the word just, how I was using it, so they would understand @the video game part

2 no where did say there are more ppl of color in texas and florida, I was sayingblacks and Mexicans live there, didn't stop of from sending aid


do you also not take into account that we just got hit by 2 other hurricanes? we are still dealin with that, so of course its gonna take a tad longer for aid, ontop of that aid I already there there just isn't enough


I don't know if this is ignorance, or just desperation on your behalf, but nonetheless:

A week ago is not "just" happened. Especially not when talking about major crises that leave citizens without food or water. It's kind of a big deal when that happens and time is of the essence.

If you don't understand that Puerto Rico being predominantly non-white, the exact opposite of Texas and Florida, is one of the facts this thread is based on, just leave. If you don't even bother to understand the things you complain about you're just a whiner.

And as I said multiple times before, no, no I do not take into account that America just got hit by two other hurricanes when discussing Trump's late as shit response to a major disaster. And do you know why? Because if you have time to bitch about sports teams, you have the time to address the people, your people who you govern over, that are fucking dying. Did the hurricanes stop Trump from talking about the crisis? Was it the hurricanes that made Trump wait a week before allowing non U.S. ships from helping Puerto Rico? He didn't waste nearly as much time doing that with any other hurricane disaster, so why would it be unfair to accuse him of bias?

That's right, bias, which is what it is. Just like you who berates other nations for not handling the issues faced by U.S. citizens but completely rejecting any blame aimed at the U.S. president for refusing to let them do it until earlier today. Just another biased fanatic.
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Rujikin wrote:

Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


C'mon, couldn't our heroic rescue workers put on another great show like they gave in Texas?


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If the people in Puerto Rico were white, would more of an effort be made to get resources to the island?


Although if Puerto Rico was white, we wouldn't have been trying to grab it in the Spanish-American War, so that's a bit academic...
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aid has already been sent there, some is stuck in transport and overall there just isn't enough and I wouldn't doubt its because we just dealt with multiple other disasters


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octorockandroll wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Considering the delay and apathy Trump shows towards giving even the most simple and basic response to the Puerto Rico crisis especially when compared to the hurricanes in Flroida and Texas, I would say yes. Of course, that's only speculation, but I doubt even the most zealous Trump supprpter will deny the simple fact that he is not treating them with the same urgency as people on the mainland. These are still American taxpayers and they'r ein a situation much worse than Florida, so why does Florida get the preferrential treatment?


Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


Oh yeah, that explains why Trump was more preoccupied with acknowledging kneeling athletes than a humanitarian crisis. Thanks for clearing that up.


So having the Pentagon help with the crisis is being preoccupied? It takes 2 minutes to tweet. Hardly a distraction. You need to get your TDS looked at, its really bad.
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