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Logic and Science are methods, not laws. They can and do both exist in Fantasy stories.

However if you want magic in the "real world" then it needs to be tied into the rest of the laws of physics that make up our universe (multiverse?). Any universe with "magic" as we understand it, would be very different from ours, possibly lethally so.

Oddly, we will get "magic", in a sense, in the future. Quantum computing is just the start of applying the laws of quantum physics over the laws of Newtonian physics, but it will all be consistently logically and scientifically created instead of willpower and hand-waving like magic is usually.


Logic is not law? isn't 1+1=2 logic that's also an unchangeable law?

What about the harry potter world? Is it impossible to have human be able to use magic without changing the environment around them?
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When its come to sci-fi everything is based on logic and theory. But what about fantasy? How can we use logic to explain magic? or dragons? or elves?

I started thinking about this when I was watching a shounen anime wondering if that shounen world was real would the things that exist and happen in it be explained with science and does it make sense?


I think it is possible. Irregular at magic high is based on that very principle of magic being discovered/systematized through science. Which things like PK(psychokineses) ESP ect cant be proven or disproven at this point so their is always a chance. Out of all of them I would say Dragons would be easiest as I should think with time and a bit of genetic engineering breeding a large lizard is not impossible. Fire breathing could be done through genetic manipulation to give the lizard two glands that produce different substances that when mixed could become pyrophoric.


I see but isn't the dragon created through technology? how would they exist in harry potter or lord of the rings type worlds?
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Well if we are talking about other worlds that alleviates the fire breathing as it could be possible a lizard already had such a defensive mechanism. Size could be selective breeding or something to the effect of a modern day dinosaur.
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Re: dragons in Harry Potter/ LotR:
1) Created by wizards/magic users, perhaps as war-beasts (perhaps by accident).
2) Created by gods.
3) Developed that way due to wild magic.
4) Evolved naturally to possess both an electric eel-type electrical discharge and either burping explosive gas or spitting flammable venom/phlegm. Wyverns would be far more likely than dragons in this scenario however, due to the number of limbs compared to other lizard-like creatures.
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oneouts123 wrote:

When its come to sci-fi everything is based on logic and theory. But what about fantasy? How can we use logic to explain magic? or dragons? or elves?

I started thinking about this when I was watching a shounen anime wondering if that shounen world was real would the things that exist and happen in it be explained with science and does it make sense?


It happens all the time in stories where magic is used in technology and vice versa

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-983721/the-magitech-continuum
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