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I found this episode sort of weird. First there was the weird pace. Then just the odd "coincidence" of exactly equal numbers on both sides so people could match up. I did like the twist of how the plan failed at first only to succeed in the end, but I thought once Kirie was completely petrified her ability to turn back time was gone. So now I'm confused. Also I found the logic of what happened once Fate was trapped just odd. And whether or not Fate actually did kill Tota's parents himself or just feels guilty (that old trope) we already know he was going to cut Tota's head off rather ruthlessly, which I'm guessing is not something even an immortal just recovers from. I doubt Fate's way of using Tota to save his grandfather would have been pleasant or required Tota's permission. So not really a nice guy.
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Ooh, the all mighty Fate fell to a trap set by these young people.

Of course Karin would be asking her "important" question lul. This week's' episode felt like it's setting up for the final few episodes.
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Episode 8

The plan has been changed due to Fate arriving with Tota's friends and once they see an opening they act but didn't expect Fate having allies with him. They have trouble as Kirie is turned to stone but they have to kill some time until it wears off so everyone has to fight until than. Once Kirie is back to normal they set the plan into action and teleport Fate underground. In order to get set free he gives them the chance to ask a question and he answer them truthfully. When it came to Tota's question he asked if Fate was the one that killed his parents and he answered yes, but just than a recoding of Negi shows up saying that Fate lied and that he knows the truth. Just as he was about to tell Tota the truth Kuromaru to destroy the device with the recording as he was told to do so by Yukihime.

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I found this episode sort of weird. First there was the weird pace. Then just the odd "coincidence" of exactly equal numbers on both sides so people could match up. I did like the twist of how the plan failed at first only to succeed in the end, but I thought once Kirie was completely petrified her ability to turn back time was gone. So now I'm confused. Also I found the logic of what happened once Fate was trapped just odd. And whether or not Fate actually did kill Tota's parents himself or just feels guilty (that old trope) we already know he was going to cut Tota's head off rather ruthlessly, which I'm guessing is not something even an immortal just recovers from. I doubt Fate's way of using Tota to save his grandfather would have been pleasant or required Tota's permission. So not really a nice guy.


If you mean the first time Kirie was petrified, she stabs herself. If you mean the present time she had a counter measure prepared for when her suicide failed and dies shortly after she gets unpetrified.

The bit underground was a bit weird because of the changes to the anime. It's mostly the same until the end but the changes makes Fate's exit feel forced.

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Cobaltseas wrote:

I found this episode sort of weird. First there was the weird pace. Then just the odd "coincidence" of exactly equal numbers on both sides so people could match up. I did like the twist of how the plan failed at first only to succeed in the end, but I thought once Kirie was completely petrified her ability to turn back time was gone. So now I'm confused. Also I found the logic of what happened once Fate was trapped just odd. And whether or not Fate actually did kill Tota's parents himself or just feels guilty (that old trope) we already know he was going to cut Tota's head off rather ruthlessly, which I'm guessing is not something even an immortal just recovers from. I doubt Fate's way of using Tota to save his grandfather would have been pleasant or required Tota's permission. So not really a nice guy.


If you mean the first time Kirie was petrified, she stabs herself. If you mean the present time she had a counter measure prepared for when her suicide failed and dies shortly after she gets unpetrified.

The bit underground was a bit weird because of the changes to the anime. It's mostly the same until the end but the changes makes Fate's exit feel forced.



Ok- I guess that sort of makes sense where Kirie is concerned. Thanks. But that later bit I just found the whole sequence of events weird. From Fate being able to decide how his capture should go, and how things went from there on. None of it felt right or real. Sure it was interesting, and we learned something, but I even wonder what was the point of risking all that to capture Fate if they can't even do much with him once they got him where they wanted him?
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The end of this episode has a subtle but important change in Touta's motivation compared to the manga:
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Episode 9

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Episode 9

Here comes Mizore, who is the ojou-sama Ayaka's granddaughter. She's quite a handful to deal with seeing that she doesn't exactly approve of Negi. And things get out of hand when Tota is taking a dip in the hot springs that all started with Shinobu scrubbing his back and Mizore wanting in. And then Tota hears it straight from Yukihime, as Evangeline, what exactly is the truth as he's in for quite a shock. While it is true that Fate caused the accident, who he killed wasn't Tota's parents as Tota himself is not a normal human, but a clone. That was quite a huge twist there, and all of that was happening while Ken Akamatsu was up to his usual fanservicey antics.
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I'm a bit disappointed that they...

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Episode 8

Some visitors come to UQ Holder and it's no other than Ayaka, Chachamaru and Ayaka granddaughter Mizore. She comes to speak to Yukihime about Negi still being alive while Mizore is picking a fight with Tota. The fight soon ends as she falls for Tota and starts to win him over before the girls can. Things get out of control when the girls start fighting over who is going to wash Tota's back but they end up losing to Yukihime. At the end Evangeline tells Tota the truth that Fate didn't kill his parents as he is a clone of Negi Springfield.

They are skipping a lot of things from the manga and introducing characters when they are supposed to. The episode itself was alright I did find the whole washing Tota's back ridiculous. The one thing I liked however was seeing Ayaka and Chachamru again. I still wonder why Evangeline left Chachamru with Ayaka?




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eddie1255 The one thing I liked however was seeing Ayaka and Chachamru again. I still wonder why Evangeline left Chachamru with Ayaka?


In the final chapter of Negima! where they do a "where are they now" summary:


Negima! Volume 38, Chapter 355
Seat Number 26: Evangeline A.K. McDowell
The boy's promise in regards to the Infernus Scholacticus curse was fulfilled upon the rescue of her beloved. Though free, her former intensity remains dormant, and she continues to watch over the girl in whom she sees pieces of the boy and herself. As for how things turned out with her and her beloved, that is another story.

Seat Number 10: Chachamaru Karakuri
Worked many years as Negi's Personal Assistant. She became the prototype for the humanoid robots that would be vital in Solar System development taking place in harsh environments. It has been confirmed that she is wound up every day.

Seat Number 29: Ayaka Yukihiro
Representing the Yukihiro Conglomerate, she devotes all of her efforts to the implementation of Project: Blue Mars. After the establishment of the ISSDA, she continued to be a great support to Negi and Asuna. She feels very blessed simply being able to stand off to the side, behind Negi.


Based on this, we can infer that Evangeline remained near where Asuna was located while releasing Chachamaru to Negi. It's not unthinkable that after Negi was possessed by the Mage of the Beginning, Chachamaru and Ayaka started working together to try and save him.
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Episode 10

It's off to Mahora where Tota is competing in a fighting tournament at the school Negi taught at. Except that he can't compete because registration is full. So he takes a tour of the place where Mana is the principal, and he meets Sayo, Ayaka, and Chachamaru. And then somebody had to withdraw from the tournament allowing Tota to enter. His first opponent is Cutlass, who is just like Tota, except that he's not defective like Tota. After a total beatdown, Negi comes in possessed by the WItch of the Beginning, as well as Nodoka and Yue. Things sure escalated there in a big way, and a number of characters from the Negima series appears with the fate of the world at stake. It will be interesting to see what the deal is.
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Episode 10 felt like a buidup setting up for stages of the finale.

It felt rushed tbh and I got mixed feelings about it. On the other hand, I guess it was a proper way introduce the Witch of the Beginning along with their allies. I just hope they don't rush the battles themselves soon.

Touta's got some major balls for facing off against them.
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The anime took a major detour with this episode. I guess that had to happen once they decided to skip all the training arcs and the preliminary qualifiers. The fact that Touta has trouble controlling his magic and has to resort to the hula hoops has been tossed in the trash for the anime, I guess.
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Episode 11

Here comes Asuna, who is Tota's grandmother as he was the result of a cloning experiment between Negi and Asuna, and the only one that succeeded. She saves the day just when it looked like Ialda was having her way in the alternate dimension where Kunel was brought Tota and company to explain the past. Good to see Asuna showing up there, and she hasn't aged as her real body has been encased all this time. And once again, Negi's sneeze strips all the girls in the arena leading to some fanservicey moments. One more episode left to go as after 37 seconds, Tota's power to turn the tide is activated.
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