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Posted 10/3/17 , edited 10/4/17

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Episode 1
Asta's yelling got annoying fast. I hope now that he has magic he can tone it down a bit.
I loved the parts with the gilmores coming down and choosing their masters


Gilmores haha the mental image that created lol

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I am going off a wild guess, but based off of my idea of how the author would sensibly write Black Clover, does he have Touma's Imagine Breaker or something? That seems to be the only logical way for him to have magical powers without it explicitly being "magical", as well as making use of his physical prowess.
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This truly saddens me to see this many people turned off not mostly because of the show itself, but by a newbie voice actor who for some reason was selected for a main character role in his first role...ever. I highly doubt this is how Tabata envisioned Asta talking when he wrote this dialogue in Chapter 1. Yeah, he's an obnoxious kid, but there's no way Tabata thought "Yeah, I want Asta to scream at the top of his lungs every sentence." I refuse to believe that's the case. As a manga reader though, I can say that he does get toned down later on in general. Again, yes he yells in the manga, but there's no way it should be to this degree and hopefully they're getting feedback on this to adjust for future episodes. I certainly don't remember it being this bad back when I watched the OVA back in May.
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17
Don't worry. I was way more turned off by the poor writing. Two brothers, but one wields demonic power?

What does this Anime have to offer me that Blue Exorcist didn’t already provide?
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17

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Voice acting and story telling.


The only VA anyone has issues with is Asta's and that's only because he screams/drags out his words at the end of each sentence. This can easily be toned down later and I reckon it shall. Story telling? This is the first episode animating the first chapter....you're joking, right? It set the tone and premise for what's to come. This was no different than the OVA...lol.


I mean, even if the VA is for only Asta, he's still the main character. The OVA is also the first chapter animated, I just feel it was better than the anime adaptation in the way it was presented. Also, no, I wasn't joking. Just my opinion, brother.
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17
hey it wasn't that bad... around two thirds into the episode i accepted the death of my own hearing n actually started to enjoy it (asta is kinda endearing whn u turn down the volume)

i mean, it's not rly anything new n DEFINITELY not "the new king of shounen" like i've seen crunchyroll trying to push (shove down our throats) but w such a popular genre like shounen you can't expect everything to have a brand new sparkling plot/ character tropes/ setting

i'll give it two more episodes to impress n then decide whether or not to spend my spare time watching it
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Yooo this Asta VA thing is soooo overblown lol. Muting the show? Skipping ahead? Ears bleeding? You guys are too intense. It was fine.
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kkmenchi wrote:


TenekTikin wrote:


Episode 1
Asta's yelling got annoying fast. I hope now that he has magic he can tone it down a bit.
I loved the parts with the gilmores coming down and choosing their masters


Gilmores haha the mental image that created lol



I was very tired when typing that
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17

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Hate... I read it lol... It is what it is. They really don’t develop that much though. They have like 2 characters that come later on, but that’s it IMO. It is what it is my man. Still think hungry joker got axed to soon, but whatever. I don’t think it is good if that makes me a hater and I never get upset about what other people like. Also I can list logical reasons why I don’t think it’s good besides it’s generic.


Then state that's your opinion to begin with, don't put a statement out there like it's a fact, because it's not. Interesting how you go from "They don't." to They really don't develop that much." Which one is it? Characters like Asta and Noelle are probably the two you're referring to, yes? Understandable, they are the two who have gotten the most after all. I can think of many more though.



Little development or not, they're still getting some and you're forgetting we're only a little over 100 chapters into Black Clover. I know I'm bringing another manga into this, but even Naruto took a while to demonstrate incredible development. Hell, they were still in the Chunin exams for crying out loud by its 100th chapter. Now, it's hard to tell which read you used. I'm assuming it was used in a past tense since you think Black Clover isn't good...right? Which chapter did you drop it at out of curiosity?


Naruto was much better Quality wise it’s first 100 chapters and if you want to use an example I would you BNHA because they are Similar. also it was 8 or 9 am dude I had just got up. I work a night shift. Also let’s rephrase this our two main characters as of now don’t dont have that much for the amount of screen time they have had. Who said I dropped it lol Also I’m one of those people that has to finish something they start. Bleach for example. Also I could tell you what this arc is about off the top of my head, but that’s Spoiler Territory. I’ll give you reasons why I don’t think it’s goid if you really want me to which is easy. I just want my computer so I can Formulate my ideas better then on a phone. Sn: Air Gear is Probably my favorite manga, but I would never tell anyone it’s good or to read it.
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17
Apparently, Asta's VA is also his first role, ever.

Yes, the voice is bad. Hope it improves. From Summer, I couldn't stand the main girl's voice from Fastest Finger either.
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Don't worry. I was way more turned off by the poor writing. Two brothers, but one wields demonic power?

What does this Anime have to offer me that Blue Exorcist didn’t already provide?


Thier not bothers though lol rewatch please.
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17
Asta's VA – good or bad – is unique. If the anime continues for years to come as some are expecting, it will become a brand. Without looking you'll know who is talking. Immediate recognition. For me personally, there are only two other VAs that embody one single character when heard. (Most VAs perform many characters. Character recognition doesn't happen often based on voice alone.) Perhaps that is the goal, dunno. We'll find out in a few years if it worked out that way.
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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17

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Asta's VA – good or bad – is unique. If the anime continues for years to come as some are expecting, it will become a brand. Without looking you'll know who is talking. Immediate recognition. For me personally, there are only two other VAs that embody one single character when heard. (Most VAs perform many characters. Character recognition doesn't happen often based on voice alone.) Perhaps that is the goal, dunno. We'll find out in a few years if it worked out that way.


Perhaps, but I do not see uniqueness as a redeeming factor, or even of a truly inherent trait of quality, to be honest, nor do I think intent should be appreciated as some would argue. If anything, it is just an egregious exaggeration of previous character archetypes (The boisterous, overconfident, yet caring fighter) without a single shred of remorse.
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Apparently, Asta's VA is also his first role, ever.

Yes, the voice is bad. Hope it improves. From Summer, I couldn't stand the main girl's voice from Fastest Finger either.


He's giving it his all, and I respect that. Asta has a lot of character, and that's not a small thing, especially in a series starting out with such a formulaic vibe.

Just, you know, dial it back. Even Eren Jaeger isn't screamy all the time. :D

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Posted 10/4/17 , edited 10/4/17

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stark700 wrote:

Apparently, Asta's VA is also his first role, ever.

Yes, the voice is bad. Hope it improves. From Summer, I couldn't stand the main girl's voice from Fastest Finger either.


He's giving it his all, and I respect that. Asta has a lot of character, and that's not a small thing, especially in a series starting out with such a formulaic vibe.

Just, you know, dial it back. Even Eren Jaeger isn't screamy all the time. :D



To be fair, I hate Eren more, as it is not just his voice, but his entire personality is dead set on rage.

OT: One of the better things I notice is that this series seems to jump straight into the action, in lieu of "starter filler" used to introduce the cast in a more mundane setting, before anything of consequence happens. I would say in that direction, it helps by establishing a narrative early on to get vested in.

Of course, I could be mistaken, and they just mess around in the city for some episodes. The premise is quite the interesting one, and I hope to see Asta develop more sympathetic characteristics as time goes on. Him being unlikable, immature, and pugnacious is what I assume is a template for measured growth.
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