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Pleasantly surprised that they adapted the Land of Permitted Murder. Not a fan of the visuals, but the atmosphere was very Kino.

I doubt this will surpass the original anime, and it certainly won't touch the novels, but it isn't bad at all.


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I like how Kino is genderless


but she isn't
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Saemonza wrote:

Pleasantly surprised that they adapted the Land of Permitted Murder. Not a fan of the visuals, but the atmosphere was very Kino.

I doubt this will surpass the original anime, and it certainly won't touch the novels, but it isn't bad at all.


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I like how Kino is genderless


but she isn't


I thought she was in the manga I stand corrected? I forgot about the story on her 12th birthday I think gender really doesn't matter in the first anime not sure about this season?
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That was a nice ED.
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A very good start. A very interesting country.

does anyone have the rights for the first series?


AD vision released it back in the day. That might mean either Sentai or Funimation still have the rights. Since Funimation got pretty much all the ADV titles that Sentai didn't want/need.


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curr0001 wrote:

A very good start. A very interesting country.

does anyone have the rights for the first series?


AD vision released it back in the day. That might mean either Sentai or Funimation still have the rights. Since Funimation got pretty much all the ADV titles that Sentai didn't want/need.




ahh okay I'll have to go looks a blu ray release for the original series be nice.
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This is quite reminiscent of some anarchist philosophy I may have read. The general idea is that legal proceedings bound by laws are harmful to the fulfillment of justice. Hence, why any form of killing is not legally prohibited, which includes being killed in a retributive manner. Society itself enforces its own ideas of justice without the law getting in the way. This also enforces the general idea of retribution preventing the less scrupulous from killing in the first place, not unlike the doctrine of mutually ensured destruction.

Essentially, those who shoot must be prepared to be shot themselves, and that is quite easy with the proliferation of fire arms.

I was actually expecting this to unfold as it did. Most anarchists are incredibly optimistic, and while I disagree with this philosophy, I love this episode for tackling this idea in the way it did.


Watching it I thought more of the enforcement of social mores versus laws. Laws mean little in a society that chooses not to enforce them, while mores can have very immediate repercussions (though rarely as violent as the first episode).

I didn't really think of anarchism while watching it, but you have a good point on that. It's a society that had no apparent official law enforcement because it relied on every able-bodied citizen to enforce the commonly accepted norm. It feels like a distinctly Japanese take on the concept, as the community itself acts in unison against anyone that dares step outside what they find acceptable.


I agreed, I didn't really see it as anarchy, that country definitely had an organized society with clear rules. It's counter-intuitive at first, you're going to think that a place that has no law against murder would be terrible- but it makes perfect sense how everyone would act in a place where everyone else had weapons and could kill you: you'd be mild mannered and polite to everyone.
It is somewhat a Japanese view in terms of how the group is very strong and enforces its rules to protect the lives of all within the group- yet I also saw it as a direct commentary on American gun culture, in particular the right to bear arms; the concept of open-carry etc... and no accident that the place looked like the old west. But I'm not one who believes that "everyone having a gun" would solve violence in this country... no, here such a concept would be (and is-) a disaster. Primarily because of that fellow at the beginning- there's too many people like him who want to use weapons to abuse others and there's a total lack of compassion for our fellow citizens (just look at how everyone drives).
But Kino fit in there perfectly!
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curr0001 wrote:

A very good start. A very interesting country.

does anyone have the rights for the first series?


AD vision released it back in the day. That might mean either Sentai or Funimation still have the rights. Since Funimation got pretty much all the ADV titles that Sentai didn't want/need.


The copy I bought recently actually says ADV on the cover, and it's not an old DVD- in the credits it actually says "A.D Vision 2017" and it also says 2004 from when the original dub was made.
ADV still seems to exist, at least as a shell of what it used to be.

But yea I highly recommend watching the original. In some ways it's better than this- the music is definitely better, both opener and ending and also the background music. I sort of like Kino's design better in that old one, she looks more like a chick who would ride a motorcycle and know how to defend herself. However all the side characters look much better in the new one it seems
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qwueri Watching it I thought more of the enforcement of social mores versus laws. Laws mean little in a society that chooses not to enforce them, while mores can have very immediate repercussions (though rarely as violent as the first episode).


Indeed, the old man even points it out towards the climax of the episode (around the 17:30 mark).

The Old Man:
In other words, "not prohibited" does not equate to "permitted".

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KingKaio wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


curr0001 wrote:

A very good start. A very interesting country.

does anyone have the rights for the first series?


AD vision released it back in the day. That might mean either Sentai or Funimation still have the rights. Since Funimation got pretty much all the ADV titles that Sentai didn't want/need.


The copy I bought recently actually says ADV on the cover, and it's not an old DVD- in the credits it actually says "A.D Vision 2017" and it also says 2004 from when the original dub was made.
ADV still seems to exist, at least as a shell of what it used to be.

But yea I highly recommend watching the original. In some ways it's better than this- the music is definitely better, both opener and ending and also the background music. I sort of like Kino's design better in that old one, she looks more like a chick who would ride a motorcycle and know how to defend herself. However all the side characters look much better in the new one it seems


Huh. ADV used to be such a giant I was so nonplussed when it broke up.

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Haha, this gem of a "review" probably won't be up for long:


It seems like I have seen this on before, back in the eighties. Only the MC was David Hasslehoff the ride was a talking car. The concept is like someone got Knight Rider and Quantum Leap confused and made the lead a girl just to sell merchandise. Besides all of that the pacing is slow and the dialog is boring.



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But yea I highly recommend watching the original. In some ways it's better than this- the music is definitely better, both opener and ending and also the background music. I sort of like Kino's design better in that old one, she looks more like a chick who would ride a motorcycle and know how to defend herself. However all the side characters look much better in the new one it seems


Apparently the new show has her look the way she does on the LN covers:



Some fans completely discounted the new show just because of that.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1646716
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1637994

I'm like... I kind of get where they're coming from, but it seems like a major drawback as an anime viewer in general to be so strongly averse to the popular modern anime style. (You're not; you're being very reasonable.)


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scoobydew wrote:

I like how Kino is genderless


but she isn't


I thought she was in the manga I stand corrected? I forgot about the story on her 12th birthday I think gender really doesn't matter in the first anime not sure about this season?

From https://myanimelist.net/featured/1379/25__Great_LGBT_Anime_Characters__Beyond_Boys_Love:

Kino is by nature a mysterious protagonist, not revealing anything personal. We do know that Kino is a "they" and that they were raised as a girl, but [mild backstory spoiler]
They dress androgynously, mostly using masculine pronouns for themselves, and correcting both those who call them "boy" and those who call them "miss" by simply stating "I am Kino." As such, they seem to be somewhere on the genderqueer spectrum.

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Aoi Yuuki is amazing, going from Yoshiko last season to Kino now.
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I thought she was in the manga I stand corrected? I forgot about the story on her 12th birthday I think gender really doesn't matter in the first anime not sure about this season?


She doesn't let her gender define her at all, which is why she refers to herself as "Kino" whenever someone calls her "boy" or "ma'am," but the novels have her written as a young woman between 15 and 17ish.
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I have to say that the discussions here about gender representation and the society of the country itself are much more interesting than the show itself was. I have no experience at all with the earlier version of this series or the source material so maybe my perspective is different in that regard, but I found the show to be sort of lifeless and lacking any real spark at all. There was nothing that made me really interested or connected to what was going on, and that really started with Kino themselves. The "twist" was pretty predictable, I found the talking motorbike to be rather silly and the constant references to the place as "that/this country" without ever naming it felt sort of obnoxious. I don't know. There was just no spark here at all for me. At least the show looks great.
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Man, was this ever a nostalgia trip...

It's been over a decade since I last broke out my Kino no Tabi DVDs. When I heard there was a new KnT anime, I knew that'd be my main show of the fall season. And I was not disappointed.

I see a lot of people bitching about the music, about the visuals not being as sharp, about Kino's redesign, whatever...and you know what? That's stupid. That's incredibly, unbelievably petty.

The takeaway here is that one of the most refreshing, innovative anthologies to come along this century is back, and the first episode felt like putting on an old, familiar, comfortable pair of jeans and being happy they still fit. Kino and Hermes are back, and 2017 sucks just a little less because of it.
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Time to go on a journey, to explore the beautiful world and trying not get shot at.

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