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Post Reply Enough is enough. The mass shootings has gone too far.
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What actually needs to be done something about are those bump stocks.

Last time I shot a rifle at a range, I don't recall having an urge to have that thing on full autofire and disintegrate the target.

People don't need bump stocks for sport, people don't need bump stock for defense, either. Semi-auto fire should be enough. No need for coupla hundred rounds per minute.
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"...the mass shootings have gone too far."



Wait, when were they ever okay?
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Posted 10/6/17 , edited 10/7/17

RyukoKuroki wrote:

"...the mass shootings have gone too far."



Wait, when were they ever okay?


When your country says it's ok.
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/9/17

nanikore2 wrote:

What actually needs to be done something about are those bump stocks.

Last time I shot a rifle at a range, I don't recall having an urge to have that thing on full autofire and disintegrate the target.

People don't need bump stocks for sport, people don't need bump stock for defense, either. Semi-auto fire should be enough. No need for couple of hundred rounds per minute.


Well to play the devils advocate the US 2nd amendment was specifically designed to allow the "people" to have arms to overthrow the govt. if it ever became oppressive, as well as fending off foreign invaders. So if I have to fight against M1A1 tanks and M16-A2 rifles.... semi auto puts me at a disadvantage doesn't it? Besides mass murder is not a product of guns being available. Murder is a product of motive and opportunity being available. As I posted previously attacks happen all over the world whether guns are available or not. To Blame an inorganic object as the reason for peoples actions is like blaming burgers for making people fat. Just isn't supported by a logical line of thinking.

When you stop to consider there are theoretically enough firearms in the US to equip every man, woman, and child with at least 2. Then if assume guns lead to violence, it would mean the US should go extinct shortly no? Of course this doesn't happen because the majority of people who own guns have no ill intent and quite a few don't even shoot the gun. I personally think what we need is a reform in the way our healthcare system handles those with issues. Pouring prescriptions drugs all over the country doesn't help the issue, it just masks the problem. I think instead we should be restricting social media access to healthy levels. Teach stress management in schools, and generally encourage people to be a bit more "thick skinned/" however that's just my own personal take.
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What happened was unforgivable. But the problem isn't with the tools he used. But the person himself. He could have made a bomb, or rammed his car through the crowd. like we saw in the protests in the south. I for one don't think that every person should own a gun. But gun are regulated, every gun has a serial number that is registered to it's owner. there are firing pins. That have there serial numbers etched into them so if used in a crime, the casings will tell you who's gun fired the round. I'm not saying that all gun's have this. but It's out there. States like Ca are trying to even make you register your ammunition. So getting back to what I was saying If a person or persons wanted kill or hurt a lot of people they will. And they will use anything they can to do so. It's not a gun problem It's a people problem.
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/7/17

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CCTDaily wrote:

No more deaths. No more injuries. What happened in Las Vegas this past Sunday was disgusting, evil, vile, hateful, insane. Mass shootings need to stop right now. America needs to start talking about its gun problem. We need to stop these mass shootings from happening again. The judge need to give the suspect a death sentence. We need to find a way to keep mass shootings from happening again.


Call it semantics but I dont think guns are teh issue. what the US has is a problem with nutballs who feel the need to hurt people.
http://www.mining.com/fifty-killed-in-a-knife-attack-at-a-chinese-colliery/
These guys got a higher kill count and only used knives. So the issue isnt guns per se its the amount of whack-jobs the US has running around. I can cite a whole host of large scale attacks carried out around the world where guns are restricted or banned. Unfortunately where there is a will to hurt large amounts of people... there is always way.


That Chinese massacre story doesn't really compare because it is thought that about 9 men carried out the attack to kill 50 people. USA,s latest mass murder was 1 man who killed 59.

The French, Nice massacre where 1 man used a truck to kill 84 people in a crowded area would be a better comparison.
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Growing up, gun's feed my family without being able to supplement our home with hunting. We wouldn't have any meat, or if we had it wouldn't have been much. Guns can be to much for some people but that doesn't mean that the whole should suffer because of the few.
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/7/17

nanikore2 wrote:

What actually needs to be done something about are those bump stocks.

Last time I shot a rifle at a range, I don't recall having an urge to have that thing on full autofire and disintegrate the target.

People don't need bump stocks for sport, people don't need bump stock for defense, either. Semi-auto fire should be enough. No need for coupla hundred rounds per minute.


spot on.

Sadly people seem to be against it screaming MAH FREEDOMS and SECOND AMENDMENT

..it's like people don't know the difference between banning guns full stop and banning an accessory that isn't needed.
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Were it so easy
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Every mass shooting is too far.
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/25/17
Let's just save all our time and get the thread over with:


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gun control dont work. just ask the criminals
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My solution to the mass shooting problem is the media. The media needs to STOP airing news like this. People won't become copy-cats if the media doesn't give them their 15 minutes of fame. These people are suicidal, but they want to go down with a bang and be known for something even if it is horrible. The media is a horrible plague on modern society in my opinion. There is no law that would have prevented this. He would have gotten his weapons even if he had to get them illegally. If he couldn't get guns, he would have rented a moving truck or something and rammed it into the crowd. Then people would be calling for stricter vehicle background checks or something.
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/7/17

Khaltazar wrote:

My solution to the mass shooting problem is the media. The media needs to STOP airing news like this. People won't become copy-cats if the media doesn't give them their 15 minutes of fame. These people are suicidal, but they want to go down with a bang and be known for something even if it is horrible. The media is a horrible plague on modern society in my opinion. .


Now, how do you place limits on the media to stop these things without violating their constitutional rights?

I agree that the media does play a part to some extent, but it isn't solely responsible. There is no silver bullet.
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/7/17
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
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