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As a part of a response to an article a business analyst posted about a topic in technology, I said "...the lazy don't care about freedom".

That was in the context of convenience being offered by machines, but afterwards I wondered if it is true in general?

Is it true that the lazy don't care about freedom, in general?

In some ways it is true. Let's say that a person would like nothing but laze about at home. What if he was told that he can't go anywhere? "Hey great! I'll just go take a nap" might be the response.

What if someone is just too lazy to come up with stuff to say or do? I'd imagine being told exactly what to say or do would be just the thing for the lazy, because just doing what's popular and repeat whatever is out there because everyone around are saying the same takes zero effort. Sticking out like a sore thumb could get to be a real hassle. Conform, behave- It's much easier that way.
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Ever heard of NEET or Otaku (Japanese version not the American its cool dork thing version)? Think that would answer this question.
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on YouTube.....listen to the G Edward Griffin tomes, see what you think

" " " ......listen to Jordan Peterson......
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I think it depends on what the "freedom" entails, and if the person would ever wish to exercise that freedom. In your example about the person just wanting to stay home, it doesn't matter to them if they can't go anywhere else, because they have no desire to use the "freedom" to leave. If you tried to take away a freedom they do use or would want to use, then it's a different matter. If it was "you can't leave, and you can only listen to the radio - no TV or internet", the reaction would probably be a bit different.

So, the lazy only care about "freedoms" they want to have.
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Being lazy is still doing shit on your own terms, though.


I'd say that still falls in line with freedom. lol
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TRKitsune wrote:

Being lazy is still doing shit on your own terms, though.


I'd say that still falls in line with freedom. lol


Yeah, after I posted I did think of the person being forced to stay awake and watch Teletubbies for 24 hours straight...
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Freedom is the ability to think, speak and act as you choose. I think you're mixing up laziness with indecisiveness.

If you tell someone lazy to do something like, "Go ahead and take a nap," of course they're likely to listen, just as anyone would be when you suggest something they'd probably choose to do on their own. Tell them to do something they're opposed to, for example, "Go split that firewood," and they'll probably tell you to do it yourself because they want to take a nap.

Lazy people may not be inclined to fight you over small infringements on their freedom, but significant enough violations will make fighting back worth the effort - if only so they can go back to being lazy again.

On the other hand, someone indecisive has difficulty or just doesn't want to make decisions. In the latter case they'll often want you to make their choices for them, so they're the only people I would say don't care about freedom.
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So, the lazy only care about "freedoms" they want to have.


You can replace the word lazy with pretty much anything there. Kind of a universal sentence when you think about it...
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From the context, this must be refering not to freedom but to certain responsibility. From my background knowledge of the more broader context, the "lazy" label is an inaccurate description since the effort and responsibility is directed to different life task like machine maintenance and increased house management. If I can say it in another word, the introduction of machine can relieve certain work demand but can increase work demand in other fields of life. For example, a person would need to be less dependent on family members and handle more life task by themselves because the maintenance by machine allow their family members to abandon them and live on their own.
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When you are comfortable apathy takes over. But I say never underestimate people's ability to rebel, since most role models in media have teenaged mentalities.
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I believe Brave New World by Alduous Huxley is contingent to this discussion.
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I'm not sure the two are intrinsically related. You can be hardworking but dependent on others. Or you can be a totally self-sufficient bum.
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Lazyness is an ephemeral condition, i think the revalorization of freedom is inevitable for any individual in such a state.
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nanikore2 wrote:

As a part of a response to an article a business analyst posted about a topic in technology, I said "...the lazy don't care about freedom".


That was in the context of convenience being offered by machines, but afterwards I wondered if it is true in general?

Is it true that the lazy don't care about freedom, in general?

In some ways it is true. Let's say that a person would like nothing but laze about at home. What if he was told that he can't go anywhere? "Hey great! I'll just go take a nap" might be the response.

What if someone is just too lazy to come up with stuff to say or do? I'd imagine being told exactly what to say or do would be just the thing for the lazy, because just doing what's popular and repeat whatever is out there because everyone around are saying the same takes zero effort. Sticking out like a sore thumb could get to be a real hassle. Conform, behave- It's much easier that way.



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