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Post Reply Felony of intentional spreading of HIV changed to misdemeanor in Cali
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Posted 10/7/17 , edited 10/8/17
http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-knowlingly-exposing-others-to-hiv-1496281754-htmlstory.html

So the top dogs in California came up with the bright idea to make the intentional spreading of one of the worst of STI's punishable by no more than 90 days in jail and a fine. The law now declares it to be a misdemeanor instead of a felony.

What the actual fuck?

Heard some retarded reasoning as to the why of it, but in an area with low service and must wait until I can get to wifi to do more proper research. In the meantime, decided to bring this to your attention, my fellow crunchies.
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This is utterly disgusting and anyone who stands by this should be ashamed of themselves for being blinded by such destructively nonsensical "progressive tolerance".

edit: I bet the people who voted for "The Kiss" over "Kayo's first home-cooked meal" think it's a splendid idea.......
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Finally, now I can stop getting rejected
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Invader_Jim wrote:

This is utterly disgusting and anyone who stands by this should be ashamed of themselves for being blinded by such destructively nonsensical "progressive tolerance".


What's the rapport?
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Anyone with an STI (or other horrible infection which, though not usually an STI, can be transmitted that way. ie Ebola or Zika for some weeks or months after symptoms have stopped) who knows or suspects they have it and sleeps with someone without telling them is scum and a danger to the public health.

If you are a proponent of laws like this you better have some dang good research behind your point of view that supports the idea that harsh penalties actually make transmission worse through mechanisms like reducing the likelihood that people get tested (and hence treated), and not just be making an uneducated guess for reasons of reducing stigma while ignoring the victims whose lives have and will be ruined by such scum. It's one thing not to put unnecessary stigma on people with these infections (after all many people with them didn't even have any choice in the matter, such as but not limited to victims of rape, hemophiliacs and others who were victims of contaminated blood supplies, and children of parents with the disease, and it's not your place to inquire into their personal history to find out how they got it), it's another to tolerate them knowingly and willfully spreading them to unsuspecting people.
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People have an obligation in telling their partners if they are STI/STD positive so that they can make an informed decision when deciding to take that risk. Especially in the case of AIDS/HIV where it is a long term death sentence at worst, a super expensive medical expense at best.
Someone could consent to engaging in sexual acts with someone, but maybe would not knowing that they could potentially be affected. It's a case where a lack of consent in regards to being knowingly exposed to a deadly STI/STD was not given which is why it is wrong and the law should not have been changed.

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That's by far not the worst I've seen. If I were to inform someone that their SO is HIV positive, that would be a crime. The government has been lecturing us with among other things, an ad on radio mocking people who won't be in a relationship with an HIV-positive and equating it to doing the same over the flu.

It seems murder is now a minor offence as long as prevention can somehow be spun as discrimination.
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A travesty in my opinion. Why be responsible when there is medicine to fix you. There must be something in the water there...
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people with AIDS, HIV and other forever diseases. should be classified as a biological weapon and be locked up.
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Many people with STDS get them from blood transfusions a couple decades ago along with drug use. Also most STDS are symptomatic. And 90% of people have a type of herpes like cold sores
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California is too busy coming up with retarded laws to solve their budget issues.

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Honestly, I find this the most hair-brained law change since Betsy DeVos decided that college rapists should be protected not their victims. I have no idea what they're thinking on this one.
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I'd heard this idea was being proposed, but I disregarded it because... Well, because only a maniac would think it's a good idea.

We need something large to enthuse the west again. I think another big war is probably a bad idea, so I'm going to hope the Mars colony project actually starts before the war.

To the USA - I know a giant social experimentation lab "seemed" like a good idea, but some of the results are frankly disturbing now. And you forgot to keep the specimens contained so I think you should get on that. And either round up or hunt down the loose ones.

Maybe this is why there aren't any alien civilisations. After a while an intelligent species just runs out of threats and spirals out of control into self-destructive madness. Perhaps we need to look a bit harder and downloading our consciousness into emotionless robots, just as a near-term solution until we get some out-system colonies up and running to give people something to aspire to.
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CasualObserver wrote:


To the USA - I know a giant social experimentation lab "seemed" like a good idea, but some of the results are frankly disturbing now. And you forgot to keep the specimens contained so I think you should get on that. And either round up or hunt down the loose ones.

Maybe this is why there aren't any alien civilisations. After a while an intelligent species just runs out of threats and spirals out of control into self-destructive madness.

Perhaps we need to look a bit harder and downloading our consciousness into emotionless robots, just as a near-term solution until we get some out-system colonies up and running to give people something to aspire to.


1. Care to elaborate?

2. No, more likely it's an environmental issue.

3. What's the point of living without emotions?
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Sarmelion wrote:


CasualObserver wrote:


To the USA - I know a giant social experimentation lab "seemed" like a good idea, but some of the results are frankly disturbing now. And you forgot to keep the specimens contained so I think you should get on that. And either round up or hunt down the loose ones.

Maybe this is why there aren't any alien civilisations. After a while an intelligent species just runs out of threats and spirals out of control into self-destructive madness.

Perhaps we need to look a bit harder and downloading our consciousness into emotionless robots, just as a near-term solution until we get some out-system colonies up and running to give people something to aspire to.


1. Care to elaborate?

2. No, more likely it's an environmental issue.

3. What's the point of living without emotions? :P


1 - Sure, but on what?

2 - Sorry, what?

3 - Temporary solution, be calm and chilled as a robot until there's something for the human emotions to focus on.
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