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Post Reply Felony of intentional spreading of HIV changed to misdemeanor in Cali
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This seems....short sighted to be it politely.

I could understand if it was based entirely on a logical argument with evidence ( The law causes people to not be tested. We've studied it and found this leads to significantly more infections. ). But you can't make an argument for it based on it being discrimination. Discrimination is not the concern. An incurable chronic disease that can remain asymptomatic for a significant length of time is the concern.

Yes, these days we've made great leaps in managing HIV. But you can't manage it if you aren't aware you have it in the first place.

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CasualObserver wrote:


1 - Sure, but on what?

2 - Sorry, what?

3 - Temporary solution, be calm and chilled as a robot until there's something for the human emotions to focus on.



1. The social experiment comment you made. I'm not sure I understand what you mean.


2. I think the reason we don't see a lot of other alien species is

a: Life conditions are more rare than we've believed, for sapience even moreso.

b: Sapient species like ourselves probably have collapse not due to internal strife (as bad as things are, they're not as bad as they used to be, and will likely be resolved in due time), but because we damage our environment before we're prepared for space-travel.


3. Eh, still seems a bit extreme for a temporary solution. I'm not sure we even could develop a working AI without emotions. Irl when people have their emotional centers damaged they have a lot of trouble making decisions, they can reason through a problem just fine, but actually deciding between two options that aren't obviously better or worse than the other usually REQUIRES an emotional base.


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runec wrote:

This seems....short sighted to be it politely.

I could understand if it was based entirely on a logical argument with evidence ( The law causes people to not be tested. We've studied it and found this leads to significantly more infections. ). But you can't make an argument for it based on it being discrimination. Discrimination is not the concern. An incurable chronic disease that can remain asymptomatic for a significant length of time is the concern.

Yes, these days we've made great leaps in managing HIV. But you can't manage it if you aren't aware you have it in the first place.




Agreed, I worry that a lot of political leaders have forgotten how to move to help things without legislation, how to actually have a press conference and lead people and move money from enforcing an unstable law to make testing more affordable or to change the existing law so that it works better.
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Posted 10/8/17 , edited 10/8/17
From the OP's linked article:

“These laws are irrational and discriminatory,” Wiener told the Senate, adding that the current felony status is “creating an incentive not to be tested, because if you don’t know your status you can’t be guilty of a felony.”


It would have to be a congressman named "Wiener" to weigh in on the matter.

I question where the rationale that the law was "creating an incentive not to be tested". What kind of short-sighted twat 1) doesn't want to know if they have a disease that will severely impact their own health and 2) wants spread said disease to others? No sex or at least taking measures to protect partners who are aware of the risks seems like a small price to pay for taking care of oneself and not being an irresponsible douche.
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“These laws are irrational and discriminatory,” Wiener told the Senate, adding that the current felony status is “creating an incentive not to be tested, because if you don’t know your status you can’t be guilty of a felony.”

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