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Hmm, been through the discussion many times. In the end me and a few others theorized in a forum that the brain's consciousness comes from the magnetic field caused by the imbalance distribution of sodium and potassium ions in the brain. So it's a force. As to why the shape of a brain creates consciousness, well it's like a conch shell, you blow on the conch shell and you get a resonance frequency. The force on the brain structure generates a resonance frequency resembling that of a consciousness. That's as far as I can speculate. As for blowing on the conch, force acting on the brain. No idea, pure speculation here. Thing is all brain structure looks the same. Let it be an ant's brain, or a bird's brain, they all have similar structure, that gives rise to consciousness. As to how you swap it, well that's out of my thought either. Crunchyroll or EM group might have better idea



There are quite a few rational theories around consciousness.
Unfortunately, for the time being, they are merely theories or hypothesizes.
Seeing as we are unable to observe it (yet), the concept of consciousness is not going to be something directly understood anytime soon.
Objectively, I would say: "This may be possible, just not yet."
We would need more of an understanding of consciousness and the correlation between consciousness and memories.

Without memories, what would consciousness end up being?
Would we retain all of our personality traits?
Would we retain all of our environmental habits?
Without understanding consciousness and how our physical existence impacts it, we cannot necessarily begin the process of experimenting "switching" consciousness without potentially damaging side-effects.


Without memories, during sleep I think the majority of the memories are not being accessed, or so I speculate. That is not to say that at sleep you are without consciousness, just not the memories.

But look at it from another way, brain is just like any other organs, the only different is it got a magnetic field. That sort of simplifies things into two things, but if you want to speculate this existence and potential psychokinetic power and unlock all possible memories and consciousness , that's out of my league .

Computer, we do not know voltage, but we switch current on and off anyway , well this one involves life, so it's more complex. I would say access with care, if this magnetic field is going to fry someone's brain, don't do it

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In anime, yes. In the real world, no.
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fredreload wrote:
Without memories, during sleep I think the majority of the memories are not being accessed, or so I speculate. That is not to say that at sleep you are without consciousness, just not the memories.


There have been numerous studies indicating that your memories are being accessed (and in some situations, edited or updated) while sleeping.
This is often the case as to why people can or cannot remember their dreams (either they're accessed for "assets" [data to render a dream] or storage of the dream itself).
Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep seems to initialize the limbic, paralimbic and forebrain areas of the brain more than while most are awake.
The limbic system of your brain is responsible for long-term memory, emotion, behavior, and olfaction (this forms of the sense of smell).
Interesting, no?


fredreload wrote:
But look at it from another way, brain is just like any other organs, the only different is it got a magnetic field. That sort of simplifies things into two things, but if you want to speculate this existence and potential psychokinetic power and unlock all possible memories and consciousness , that's out of my league .


Brush up on your biomagnetism, just a little.
Your brain isn't the only organ or part of the body that generates a magnetic field.
There is an entire realm of science dedicated to biomagnetism and how magnetic fields impacts one's health and behavior.
That being said, there is a fair amount of nonsensical information out there about biomagnetism and the human body (like magnet therapy) so be wary while doing some self-education on the subject.


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lawdog wrote:

In anime, yes. In the real world, no.


Now where do you think the anime brain swap idea came from ?


Cydoemus wrote:


fredreload wrote:
Without memories, during sleep I think the majority of the memories are not being accessed, or so I speculate. That is not to say that at sleep you are without consciousness, just not the memories.


There have been numerous studies indicating that your memories are being accessed (and in some situations, edited or updated) while sleeping.
This is often the case as to why people can or cannot remember their dreams (either they're accessed for "assets" [data to render a dream] or storage of the dream itself).
Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep seems to initialize the limbic, paralimbic and forebrain areas of the brain more than while most are awake.
The limbic system of your brain is responsible for long-term memory, emotion, behavior, and olfaction (this forms of the sense of smell).
Interesting, no?


fredreload wrote:
But look at it from another way, brain is just like any other organs, the only different is it got a magnetic field. That sort of simplifies things into two things, but if you want to speculate this existence and potential psychokinetic power and unlock all possible memories and consciousness , that's out of my league .


Brush up on your biomagnetism, just a little.
Your brain isn't the only organ or part of the body that generates a magnetic field.
There is an entire realm of science dedicated to biomagnetism and how magnetic fields impacts one's health and behavior.
That being said, there is a fair amount of nonsensical information out there about biomagnetism and the human body (like magnet therapy) so be wary while doing some self-education on the subject.




Right, sorry for forgetting about nerves on the other parts of the body. I was referring to transcranial magnetic stimulation, an actual machine built to stimulate the brain with magnetic field for treatment. With that said I am speculating that consciousness comprises of magnetic field, but once you bring an actual strong enough magnetic field close to the brain's magnetic field weird stuff starts to happen. Yes it causes the imbalance of potassium and sodium in the neuron to generate an action potential. But even then we suspect that those holding the potassium and sodium side by side also has a potential for magnetic field. This (the former part) constitutes the electromagnetic theories of consciousness.

I am familiar with REM sleep, just that there aren't many occurrences of fast eye ball movement
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