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juanasilo wrote:

i would put it anything new
car, helicopter, n airplane


I really should phrase it in a more logical sense, which is currently impossible I must say >.<, but I still wish there is an answer somewhere.

The present day:
1. DNA immortality to reverse aging is doable but it could messes up the epigenome, needs more improvement
2. Transferring consciousness is likely achievable with space time simulation inside a computer, but if you've achieved this you could just recreate yourself in real space time. And so I think no one has achieved this yet.
3. Transferring consciousness to another human being with surpressed consciousness. Doable but, one the person would have to stay dormant without a consciousness when you grow him/her from scratch. Two the person does not have the necessary memory. You lose all memory.
4. Transferring consciousness to a cyborg is doable, all memories and brain structure could be recreated with 3D printing, but you cannot simulate brain plasticity. Meaning you will have a 10 seconds memory span
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What the.. didn't you already made same topic about this few days ago?! =0 I think I'm going insane Fred!
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What the.. didn't you already made same topic about this few days ago?! =0 I think I'm going insane Fred! :(


Na you're hallucinating !

P.S My bad I feel that it needs to be re-emphasized, good memory bro
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I'd love to see what they could do if they were as smart as humans.
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No, mine.
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Cyborg obviously

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Everything is consciousness and everything comes from consciousness.
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robotechy wrote:

Cyborg obviously



Cyborg would be pretty cool actually
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juanasilo wrote:

i would put it anything new
car, helicopter, n airplane


I really should phrase it in a more logical sense, which is currently impossible I must say >.<, but I still wish there is an answer somewhere.

The present day:
1. DNA immortality to reverse aging is doable but it could messes up the epigenome, needs more improvement
2. Transferring consciousness is likely achievable with space time simulation inside a computer, but if you've achieved this you could just recreate yourself in real space time. And so I think no one has achieved this yet.
3. Transferring consciousness to another human being with suppressed consciousness. Doable but, one the person would have to stay dormant without a consciousness when you grow him/her from scratch. Two the person does not have the necessary memory. You lose all memory.
4. Transferring consciousness to a cyborg is doable, all memories and brain structure could be recreated with 3D printing, but you cannot simulate brain plasticity. Meaning you will have a 10 seconds memory span


How did you come up with that? If anything I would say cybernetics would offer perfect memory. Since even modern computers process vast amounts of information. You would be able to not only memorize what your doing but every little detail of every stimuli you encounter. Of Course this would pose issues to memory storage issues, however if you could transplant your consciousness.... then programing a system to be selective of memories would be a simple task.

Though to be honest if you could transplant consciousness that means you have figured out how to accurately map the brains activity and functions. Such a discovery would also mean you could create consciousness as well as alter it. As your consciousness is simply a collecting of stimuli and experiences it would be akin to reformatting a hard-drive. How would you know your even you since your memories and experiences could have all been fake. perhaps the memories you now have are actually a collection of others mixed together to make you more pliable to whomever s needs.

Its neat to think about such things but this falls under that "Dont ask if it CAN be done, ask if it SHOULD be done."
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fredreload wrote:


juanasilo wrote:

i would put it anything new
car, helicopter, n airplane


I really should phrase it in a more logical sense, which is currently impossible I must say >.<, but I still wish there is an answer somewhere.

The present day:
1. DNA immortality to reverse aging is doable but it could messes up the epigenome, needs more improvement
2. Transferring consciousness is likely achievable with space time simulation inside a computer, but if you've achieved this you could just recreate yourself in real space time. And so I think no one has achieved this yet.
3. Transferring consciousness to another human being with suppressed consciousness. Doable but, one the person would have to stay dormant without a consciousness when you grow him/her from scratch. Two the person does not have the necessary memory. You lose all memory.
4. Transferring consciousness to a cyborg is doable, all memories and brain structure could be recreated with 3D printing, but you cannot simulate brain plasticity. Meaning you will have a 10 seconds memory span


How did you come up with that? If anything I would say cybernetics would offer perfect memory. Since even modern computers process vast amounts of information. You would be able to not only memorize what your doing but every little detail of every stimuli you encounter. Of Course this would pose issues to memory storage issues, however if you could transplant your consciousness.... then programing a system to be selective of memories would be a simple task.

Though to be honest if you could transplant consciousness that means you have figured out how to accurately map the brains activity and functions. Such a discovery would also mean you could create consciousness as well as alter it. As your consciousness is simply a collecting of stimuli and experiences it would be akin to reformatting a hard-drive. How would you know your even you since your memories and experiences could have all been fake. perhaps the memories you now have are actually a collection of others mixed together to make you more pliable to whomever s needs.

Its neat to think about such things but this falls under that "Dont ask if it CAN be done, ask if it SHOULD be done."


Well, if you are looking for a cybernetic brain, you would still need to simulate the magnetic field created by the ions. So you would need the presence of sodium and potassium ions in the membrane. And the imbalance of ions require a transport pump and energy ATP. Meaning the physiology would be quite similar to human. If you do get a magnetic field running in mid air without ions it might not be very stable and you might have to encase it with a shield like a hard drive.
1. And this is assuming water molecules are not required in the thought process.
2. And the brain plasticity is not needed to function correctly like a normal human for an adult brain.
So this is why I am looking for a container for electromagnetic field and whether brain plasticity is needed. If you got the above to work you could do the crazy selfless movie look alike in shifting the magnetic field. Simpler said then done =/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3agaVwt0tb8

You can compare consciousness to an electrostatic loudspeaker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_loudspeaker

Each neuron acts as a diaphragm to amplify the signal of consciousness. So to transfer consciousness, we need transfer the static charge?/force? acting on this diaphragm, forgive me I haven't thought it out

"As a result a uniform electrostatic field proportional to the audio signal is produced between both grids." Wikipedia
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a mirror
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I would want to be inside a bunch of nanobots because then I'd have shapeshifting powers.
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A bacon sandwich.
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A vending machine.
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