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Posted 10/15/17

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And so there are two genders on earth, why two? Why not three? What exactly is a male and what exactly is a female?

The key difference, only the female can reproduce offspring. And throughout evolution, there is never a third gender, strange isn't it?


How is that strange? We have no need for a 3rd sex, so we didn't evolve one. Evolution is not complicated. What is does is, but what it is isn't.
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Gender has existed for centuries some societies even having three so two is just the baseline that we use because it's all we need it's not actually something that HAS to be two.

Sex on the other matter is to do with your chromosomes.
People like to use these two words interchangeably which is fine but they do forget they are not the same thing.


Society is fine with two genders imo as opposed to more.


This didn't just happen. The dominant religion of the west decreed there were only two genders and punished offenders as harshly as heretics.



Lies, which is why you see gender roles repeated around the world. Behavior is a sex linked trait. Well, a lot of it is. And ON AVERAGE certain things (such as liking objects over people) is much, much more prevalent in one sex over the other, even in infants.

Culture plays a role, but it's more accurate to say nature dictated culture (nurture) that reinforced nature.
Posted 10/15/17
Why anything. It just is.
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Yokoshima333 wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

Gender has existed for centuries some societies even having three so two is just the baseline that we use because it's all we need it's not actually something that HAS to be two.

Sex on the other matter is to do with your chromosomes.
People like to use these two words interchangeably which is fine but they do forget they are not the same thing.


Society is fine with two genders imo as opposed to more.


This didn't just happen. The dominant religion of the west decreed there were only two genders and punished offenders as harshly as heretics.



Lies, which is why you see gender roles repeated around the world. Behavior is a sex linked trait. Well, a lot of it is. And ON AVERAGE certain things (such as liking objects over people) is much, much more prevalent in one sex over the other, even in infants.

Culture plays a role, but it's more accurate to say nature dictated culture (nurture) that reinforced nature.


No not lies. The church and western culture in general were very strong on gender/sex roles and conformity. That's why they burned gays
In later years perhaps not quite so harsh but Missionaries to other cultures did try to convince natives that there were only two genders those are not lies but facts.

As for two genders being sex linked and common. sure.

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Before answering your question there is something that needs to be cleared up. Sex does not equal gender.

The gender is what you see yourself and/or the society sees you as : man,woman, both, neither,whatever. Sex is something you cannot change as it is what your DNA says you are: XY(male), XX(female), and in some uncommon cases you have 3 and then it comes up to what combination you have because not all combinations can live. Correct me if I'm making a mistake, it's been a long time since I last studied biology.

But of course this is how humans work. You have creatures that can reproduce asexually as well. The downside to this would be that the offspring would be exactly like the parent so genetic diseases would never cease to exist unless the individuals carrying them died off. Which is why humans don't reproduce asexually and are generally more attracted to healthy(or healthier) looking individuals. Even if you were queer you would still be more likely to feel attraction towards someone who looked healthy.

Now for the third sex. It would simply complicate matters and so it doesn't exist. A third gender, I don't know. You can identify as a cupcake for all I care.
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Posted 10/16/17

papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Yokoshima333 wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

Gender has existed for centuries some societies even having three so two is just the baseline that we use because it's all we need it's not actually something that HAS to be two.

Sex on the other matter is to do with your chromosomes.
People like to use these two words interchangeably which is fine but they do forget they are not the same thing.


Society is fine with two genders imo as opposed to more.


This didn't just happen. The dominant religion of the west decreed there were only two genders and punished offenders as harshly as heretics.



Lies, which is why you see gender roles repeated around the world. Behavior is a sex linked trait. Well, a lot of it is. And ON AVERAGE certain things (such as liking objects over people) is much, much more prevalent in one sex over the other, even in infants.

Culture plays a role, but it's more accurate to say nature dictated culture (nurture) that reinforced nature.


No not lies. The church and western culture in general were very strong on gender/sex roles and conformity. That's why they burned gays
In later years perhaps not quite so harsh but Missionaries to other cultures did try to convince natives that there were only two genders those are not lies but facts.

As for two genders being sex linked and common. sure.



I'll be more specific. I meant my assumes implication that it was the primary reason we have gender roles is a lie, not the literal statement itself I'll admit my vagueness was by bad, so sorry about that.

And I wasn't saying it was just common, but that nature plays a huge role. And ignoring that and trying to force both genders to conform to the same averages will just increase the disparity among the two roles. For example in 1st world countries when women have a choice they tend to pick stereotypical jobs (directly related to people such as nursing or even biology when it comes to humans), but when they need money (such as in 3rd world) they pic what pays the best.

Side note:I am in no way advocating we become a 3rd world country.
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Because there have only ever been male and female since the dawn of human beings. To ask this, is like asking why leaves fall, it's just the way nature intended. Hence the reason there has only been two genders.

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Because humans reproduce sexually, and there are only two sexes/genders needed to reproduce sexually. A third sex/gender would be a biological failure, and would go extinct inevitably.
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Wow, way for TS to create a bait thread on a "hot button" issue. GENDER is a cultural classification of Male/Female/Other, and some cultures have recognized as many as 4 or 5 different genders. SEX is the question I believe you're asking, which is biological and based on chromosomes. The overwhelming majority of people fall into Male (XY chromosomes) and Female (XX chromosomes). An exceedingly small precentage of the population (a fraction of a percent, really) may be born XXY, hermaphroditic, etc, but these people often suffer from mental disabilities and are sterile. As to WHY there are only 2 main sexes, as others said before, there just isn't a need for more than 2 in humans.
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Nature is interested in results, not feelings. Having two sexes was successful in propagating the species, and the usual "two genders" thing reflects subconscious programming to help encourage reproduction, albeit exaggerated in select cultures. Of course, it's not perfect, but nature never is.
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That's just how it is...
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I can't argue with most of what you said I think biology does play a role, and also a role with the transgendered. It's not all psychological. I can't deny that I'm a nurse.

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I'm fine with the idea of the 3rd gender from Sidonia. I'm also for the idea of humans being capable of photosynthesis so we only need to eat once a week--- the money i can save on groceries!!

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Technically you don't even need 2 genders you can use 1 just fine. 2 gender reproduction solves genetic diversity problems and makes the species stronger. It also allows the organisms to be simpler because you only need 1 set of reproductive parts. Theres no technical reason you couldn't have more genders, it just didn't work out that way.
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