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Posted 10/14/17 , edited 10/14/17
This is a start of something. Cheating is too common in multiplayer. I'm glad the developer is doing something about it.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/12/16464750/epic-games-fortnite-cheater-lawsuit
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-10-13-epic-is-suing-two-alleged-fortnite-cheaters

It's hilarious reading this


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Posted 11/28/17 , edited 11/28/17
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Posted 11/30/17 , edited 11/30/17
Is "they were not read." a valid defense. Other than that, looks bad for epic.
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Posted 11/30/17 , edited 11/30/17
Yeah....no matter the situation...the second document clearly outlines a logical argument for why this case will be thrown out.

1) a minor CANNOT sign a legal document, they need a parent or guardian to do it if they are not emancipated. They are not considered "consenting". Additionally they are right in that it is hard to prove that both the defendant had the so called cheats and that there was a loss of revenue due to it being a free game.

It isn't so much that "they were not read" is the defense so much as "he is a minor and can't legally consent to an end user agreement". Sort of like how if a 17 year old walks into any medical facility and signs to "consent" to treatment. That signature is NOT valid as they are still considered a minor in the eyes of the law. It doesn't matter if they are old enough to decide for themselves.

Regardless of the stories circulating around the 14 year old and whether or not they are true...(if they are he sounds like a mega asshole)...in the eyes of the law the case sounds pretty laughable and would be thrown out.
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Posted 11/30/17 , edited 11/30/17
They issued a DMCA takedown of Youtube videos he posted teaching people how to cheat. He chose to use the legal system to file a counter. Their only choice was to allow him to keep posting videos teaching people how to cheat, or sue him. The kid tried to use the legal system against them, they fought back. They have a right to protect their property.

An analogy I have used before is: Pretend you own a store, and a 14 year old kid comes in harassing your customers every day. You can ban him, but if he keeps coming back, your only recourse is to have him arrested for trespassing.

It doesn't really seem like the kid's mother was doing anything to prevent him from doing what he was doing, and the kid wanted to use the legal system against Epic, so they used the legal system back against him.

They can't just be expected to let the kid keep diminishing their product just because he is under 18. As for that Delaware law, the case was filed in Federal Court in North Carolina, so I am not sure that law applies.
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Posted 11/30/17 , edited 12/1/17
ah this is really funny to me but in all seriousness... Isn't this a bit much????
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Posted 11/30/17 , edited 12/1/17
I kind of enjoyed reading the comment section for this annoying kids youtube rant about the situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSVeOQfujOQ
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Posted 11/30/17 , edited 11/30/17
14 is the new 18

14-15 year old killed father over iphone
14-15 year old rape his teacher
14 year old sent 3 people into the ICU when he ran a red right while drunk
14 year old killed 3 people in a crash with a stolen car
etc.. just google it

sure.. the crime is not as severe with this 14 year old .. but for gamers who play online you know what kind of assholes the gamers who can glitch/hack the game will be. A gaming community will often die out a lot quicker with glitchers/hackers present.

EULA-- they slap it in your face often enough so just because you didn't read is enough of an excuse..

I think Epic Games is just want to set an example-- the least they will get from this is shut down this punk's youtube channeal and block his gaming account- perma ban.
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Posted 12/1/17 , edited 12/5/17

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I think Epic Games is just want to set an example-- the least they will get from this is shut down this punk's youtube channeal and block his gaming account- perma ban.


to a 14 year old living in the social media era-- this is like a prison sentence for him


https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/310960/Epic_Games_lawsuit_over_Fortnite_cheats_ends_in_settlement.php

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/311055/On_Twitch_Fortnite_is_picking_up_momentum_and_gaining_on_Battlegrounds.php
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Posted 12/5/17 , edited 12/5/17
I think this is something a lot of people forget, ignore, or are just don't understand with law suits. Many of them get settled out of court, and sometimes there is no exchange of money.

Epic asked the kid to take down his videos teaching people how to cheat, he chose to use the legal system to block them, so Epic can either just let him get away with his misdeeds, or they have to sue him. It doesn't mean they are trying to get money from him, they just want him to stop using their IP in videos teaching people how to cheat and destroy the experience other users of their IP have.
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Posted 12/6/17 , edited 12/6/17

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to a 14 year old living in the social media era-- this is like a prison sentence for him
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I'm sure it is. The punk is in need of attention. He wants more clicks and views so i'm pretty sure he will not let it go. This guy might become another 30+ year old man who still receive allowances from his parents
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Posted 4/25/18 , edited 4/26/18
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Epic seeks default judgment in lawsuit against 14-year-old Fortnite cheater and his mom

The studio said it doesn't matter that the defendant is a minor—he played the game, so he's on the hook.
https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-seeks-default-judgment-in-lawsuit-against-14-year-old-fortnite-cheater-and-his-mom/

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Posted 4/25/18 , edited 4/26/18
This is on par when Congress wasted a bunch of time trying to get baseball players under oath that they used steroids.
Epic needs to police its own game better, our court systems don't need to waste resources on this nonsense.
Anyhow this is a PR nightmare, really have to wonder if anyone thinks these decisions through.
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Posted 4/26/18 , edited 4/26/18

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This is on par when Congress wasted a bunch of time trying to get baseball players under oath that they used steroids.
Epic needs to police its own game better, our court systems don't need to waste resources on this nonsense.
Anyhow this is a PR nightmare, really have to wonder if anyone thinks these decisions through.


Fornite is pretty much the most popular game around right now, I don't think this is hurting Epic one bit.

Suing people who misuse their IP is part of policing their game...
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Posted 4/26/18 , edited 4/26/18
Fornite developer and PUBG developer are also suing each other as well no ?

Suing is not free so the mother of the punk will have to pay for court costs...
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