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I'm a Trump apologist now? How so? I don't agree with everything he's done. And I'm a fascist now too? Wow, you really went all out with this one.
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when it comes to pure strength, superman hands down. when it comes to background story and character development, wonder woman.
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doesn't matter... they both are destined to be sent to the netherworld by MEIDO ZANGETSUHA, as is the fate of ALL superheros with ugly outfits...
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^Clearly that shows WW beating SM while he's wearing a gorilla costume.
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It happened in the 2005, 4 part Sacrifice story.

Wonder Woman won. (Wonder Woman #219).

It was a hard fight, he broke her wrist but she won.




Posted 19 days ago , edited 19 days ago
Supes would turn her into a single mom.
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Ravenstein wrote:

Superman is extremely powerful but he has three glaring weaknesses: kryptonite, psychics, and magic. Wonder Woman is extremely magical in her origins and powers leaving Superman laid bare before her.

So in this match-up I am betting on Wonder Woman.


Yeah...no.Wonder Woman may be bolstered granted by magic, but by no means are attacks a display of magic in themselves. They are essentially fueling Wonder Woman's demigoddess physique, and she is mostly a physical fighter. The same can be said of certain versions of Shazam, who powers are physically in exertion but fueled by magical sources.


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They did fight

Max Lord got a mind whammy on Sups. Made him think Diana was Darkseid and that she had killed Lois, pushed him into pure Rage mode

She slashed his throat open with her Tiara, put him down long enough for her to snap Max's neck

Simple fact is Superman is not a trained warrior. He generally depends on brawling and his powers. Diana has trained to fight all her life.


Depends on the story, as always. The Punisher once rid the Marvel Universe of its Superheroes and Villains, but that is because he was written to win. In addition, Clark was depowered a few times, to which he has trained in kryptonian martial arts, and is a genius in his own right in terms of wits. He isn't Lex Luthor or Batman, but he is far from dumb.

Given his general power level, he is deemed Earth's Strongest Hero, or at least within the ranks of The Justice League, consistently with most iterations.
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magic is one of supermans big weaknesses so yes i theory wonder woman could beat him depending on what she went into battle with. Unless were talking silver age superman which is basically reality warping superman.

take her gauntlet for example she could easily reflect one of supermans laser eyes back at him.

she also has been shown to be able to cast spells before granted she doesn't do it often mostly relying on her amazon warrior training, but she still is capable.

also non silver age superman is not completely immune to kinetic force as his fights with aliens and other super strength characters have proven. (such as doomsday.) it would be a close match but not a unbelieveble out come for wonder woman to win.

there is also there personalities to consider unless were talking about injustice superman.

Diana has allways been more ruthless then superman relatively. speaking.



ether way there is a reason they are both big members of the justice league. technical the trinity(batman, superman and wonderwoman) are all capable of defeating one another.
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Wonder Woman takes the fight. She's smart and a chick so she will plan ahead, sleep with Batman and ask to barrow his chunk of kryptonite. Fast forward a week to her date with Superman where she gives him a kryptonite roofie. Wonder Woman then pulls a Lorena Bobbit on him and posts it to twitter while he chokes to death on his own severed cock.
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Superman isn't an idiot, and is capable of devising clever plans as well. The clincher here is whether or not Wonder Woman's power are magically fueled by people like Shazam or Black Adam at times, or simply the result of some divine physiology. Even then, at times Shazam or Black Adam are depicted as having their attributes be magically enhanced, rather than magical in of themselves, akin to fuel for the bullet, than being the bullet itself. To which Wonder Woman does have magical weaponry and items to help even this fight.

Superman has shown far greater physical strength and speed attributes against far stronger foes and obstacles, nor is kryptonite an instant win against the big blue boy scout. (Though with Wonder Woman, it makes a win far more feasible, and in Wonder Woman's favour.) Again, it depends on how Kryptonite is depicted.

In terms of the Max Lord fight, it evens out because Superman was brainwashed; he was acting on basic impulse, and was much less of a capable fighter than he normally is. Even then, Wonder Woman only had to target Max Lord to release Supes; otherwise he would have resumed his assault.

Wonder Woman and Batman are superior fighters in terms of skill, but Superman isn't a dunce. He fought against other Kryptonians, their offshoot of daxamites, and even foes much stronger than him. Why? Because he had to utilize his skill set effectively. Most of what we are treated to is Superman exercising the minimum for him to win a fight; why bother tactically planning if he can speedblitz his opponents?

We need to specify specific versions, but Superman likely edges it out, unless Wonder Woman is given kryptonite, which makes beating Super Man a great deal more feasible.

They are certainly able to lay blows on one another, and have the physical strength to boot, with Wonder Woman's magical armoury greatly compensating for having much less striking power. Not to mention Wonder Woman is one of the few members actively willing to kill.
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Superman isn't an idiot, and is capable of devising clever plans as well. The clincher here is whether or not Wonder Woman's power are magically fueled by people like Shazam or Black Adam at times, or simply the result of some divine physiology. Even then, at times Shazam or Black Adam are depicted as having their attributes be magically enhanced, rather than magical in of themselves, akin to fuel for the bullet, than being the bullet itself. To which Wonder Woman does have magical weaponry and items to help even this fight.

Superman has shown far greater physical strength and speed attributes against far stronger foes and obstacles, nor is kryptonite an instant win against the big blue boy scout. (Though with Wonder Woman, it makes a win far more feasible, and in Wonder Woman's favour.) Again, it depends on how Kryptonite is depicted.

In terms of the Max Lord fight, it evens out because Superman was brainwashed; he was acting on basic impulse, and was much less of a capable fighter than he normally is. Even then, Wonder Woman only had to target Max Lord to release Supes; otherwise he would have resumed his assault.

Wonder Woman and Batman are superior fighters in terms of skill, but Superman isn't a dunce. He fought against other Kryptonians, their offshoot of daxamites, and even foes much stronger than him. Why? Because he had to utilize his skill set effectively. Most of what we are treated to is Superman exercising the minimum for him to win a fight; why bother tactically planning if he can speedblitz his opponents?

We need to specify specific versions, but Superman likely edges it out, unless Wonder Woman is given kryptonite, which makes beating Super Man a great deal more feasible.

They are certainly able to lay blows on one another, and have the physical strength to boot, with Wonder Woman's magical armoury greatly compensating for having much less striking power. Not to mention Wonder Woman is one of the few members actively willing to kill.


not silver age superman because silver age superman is just OP BS to the point hes a reality warper and can literally make up powers on the fly.

actually D.C comics made silver age superman into a villain called super boy prime
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Superman isn't an idiot, and is capable of devising clever plans as well. The clincher here is whether or not Wonder Woman's power are magically fueled by people like Shazam or Black Adam at times, or simply the result of some divine physiology. Even then, at times Shazam or Black Adam are depicted as having their attributes be magically enhanced, rather than magical in of themselves, akin to fuel for the bullet, than being the bullet itself. To which Wonder Woman does have magical weaponry and items to help even this fight.

Superman has shown far greater physical strength and speed attributes against far stronger foes and obstacles, nor is kryptonite an instant win against the big blue boy scout. (Though with Wonder Woman, it makes a win far more feasible, and in Wonder Woman's favour.) Again, it depends on how Kryptonite is depicted.

In terms of the Max Lord fight, it evens out because Superman was brainwashed; he was acting on basic impulse, and was much less of a capable fighter than he normally is. Even then, Wonder Woman only had to target Max Lord to release Supes; otherwise he would have resumed his assault.

Wonder Woman and Batman are superior fighters in terms of skill, but Superman isn't a dunce. He fought against other Kryptonians, their offshoot of daxamites, and even foes much stronger than him. Why? Because he had to utilize his skill set effectively. Most of what we are treated to is Superman exercising the minimum for him to win a fight; why bother tactically planning if he can speedblitz his opponents?

We need to specify specific versions, but Superman likely edges it out, unless Wonder Woman is given kryptonite, which makes beating Super Man a great deal more feasible.

They are certainly able to lay blows on one another, and have the physical strength to boot, with Wonder Woman's magical armoury greatly compensating for having much less striking power. Not to mention Wonder Woman is one of the few members actively willing to kill.


not silver age superman because silver age superman is just OP BS to the point hes a reality warper and can literally make up powers on the fly.

actually D.C comics made silver age superman into a villain called super boy prime


Many of the villainous versions of Superman turn out to be much more powerful in order to better contest the Justice League, for some reason. Such as "Ultraman"/Superman from Earth 3, who casually broke Black Adam's jaw after the latter attempt to use magic on him, alongside Suoerboy Prime, as you have mentioned. Some are much better at resisting kryptonite; others merely demonstrate how much more deadly Superman could be if he went all out and used lethal force.

I think it is logical to assume the non-villainous Supermen versions, but even those differ greatly in power and abilities.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


hazerddex wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Superman isn't an idiot, and is capable of devising clever plans as well. The clincher here is whether or not Wonder Woman's power are magically fueled by people like Shazam or Black Adam at times, or simply the result of some divine physiology. Even then, at times Shazam or Black Adam are depicted as having their attributes be magically enhanced, rather than magical in of themselves, akin to fuel for the bullet, than being the bullet itself. To which Wonder Woman does have magical weaponry and items to help even this fight.

Superman has shown far greater physical strength and speed attributes against far stronger foes and obstacles, nor is kryptonite an instant win against the big blue boy scout. (Though with Wonder Woman, it makes a win far more feasible, and in Wonder Woman's favour.) Again, it depends on how Kryptonite is depicted.

In terms of the Max Lord fight, it evens out because Superman was brainwashed; he was acting on basic impulse, and was much less of a capable fighter than he normally is. Even then, Wonder Woman only had to target Max Lord to release Supes; otherwise he would have resumed his assault.

Wonder Woman and Batman are superior fighters in terms of skill, but Superman isn't a dunce. He fought against other Kryptonians, their offshoot of daxamites, and even foes much stronger than him. Why? Because he had to utilize his skill set effectively. Most of what we are treated to is Superman exercising the minimum for him to win a fight; why bother tactically planning if he can speedblitz his opponents?

We need to specify specific versions, but Superman likely edges it out, unless Wonder Woman is given kryptonite, which makes beating Super Man a great deal more feasible.

They are certainly able to lay blows on one another, and have the physical strength to boot, with Wonder Woman's magical armoury greatly compensating for having much less striking power. Not to mention Wonder Woman is one of the few members actively willing to kill.


not silver age superman because silver age superman is just OP BS to the point hes a reality warper and can literally make up powers on the fly.

actually D.C comics made silver age superman into a villain called super boy prime


Many of the villainous versions of Superman turn out to be much more powerful in order to better contest the Justice League, for some reason. Such as "Ultraman"/Superman from Earth 3, who casually broke Black Adam's jaw after the latter attempt to use magic on him, alongside Suoerboy Prime, as you have mentioned.

I think it is best to assume the non-villainous Supermen versions, but even those differ greatly in power and abilities.



in any vs discussion with superman its best not to use his old silver age incarnation since that one makes up its powers on the go.
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