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Post Reply So, which women might be making up their Weinstein accusations?
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/23/17
en.wikipedia.org/…/Harvey_Weinstein_sexual_misconduct_alleg…: nearly 60 have come forward against this guy. I'm not convinced aIl of these women are actual victims. This is because there's the chance of fame and $ from a lawsuit. So, which women do you think might be making the accusations up? I am going from the angle of don't believe everything you see or hear. Let's say the NY Times article from 2 weeks that initiated this controversy wasn't written. Would any of these women have come forward at all? It's possible that some are just jumping on the band wagon.
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/22/17
I'm not going to outright dismiss the possibility that some of Weinstein's accusers may be lying, but if you're willing to just accept sight unseen that any of them are, then you're just doing what you're accusing them of.
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/22/17
Wow... Really dude?
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It's likely that a few of the stories are nothing more than tall tales, yes. It's damned near impossible for anyone here to properly root them out, though, and I, myself, can't hazard a guess. There are always a handful of pricks who'd do anything for attention. Awfully pessimistic, sure, but true, unfortunately.
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At this point, who cares?
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/22/17

DrunkKanti wrote:

Wow... Really dude?

I didn't say all the women might be lying. I said some. Also, given that those accusations are a sensitive/serious issue, I think this thread has some validity to it.
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Sexual abuse in Hollywood has been happening since the inception of film, and the entire industry is to blame. Harvey Weinstein is just the tip of a very nasty iceberg, and if anything there are probably a LOT more women he's assaulted who have not come forward out of embarrassment (no one wants to admit they sucked a dick to get a job). The actual number of women he's sexually assaulted or forced himself upon from a position of power probably reaches triple digits.


sundin13 wrote:

At this point, who cares?

Honestly, yeah. It shouldn't matter if one or two women are lying about this. There are enough valid accusations at this point for the rest of them to be taken at their word. Again, if anything, there are probably a lot more victims than just those who have come forward at this point.
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How would we ever know who is or isn't? Is anyone here qualified to make accusations? That is just gossip.

Frankly, whatever is happening, there is enough of a backlash for people to really make a judgement that he is sick. You don't just have 60 people working for one of the best band together and make up lies in order to hurt them for no reason. He clearly did some bad shit.
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kadmos1 wrote:


DrunkKanti wrote:

Wow... Really dude?

I didn't say all the women might be lying. I said some. Also, given that those accusations are a sensitive/serious issue, I think this thread has some validity to it.


So what exactly do you want? Do you want me to point at some random potential victim of abuse and start shit-talking them to try to invalidate their claim because honestly, that's the only direction I can see this thread going...
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sundin13 wrote:


kadmos1 wrote:


DrunkKanti wrote:

Wow... Really dude?

I didn't say all the women might be lying. I said some. Also, given that those accusations are a sensitive/serious issue, I think this thread has some validity to it.


So what exactly do you want? Do you want me to point at some random potential victim of abuse and start shit-talking them to try to invalidate their claim because honestly, that's the only direction I can see this thread going...


Right?! Let me just pull out my detailed files on the psychological state of all the Weinstein victims .
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I'd rather leave it to the detectives, lawyers, and judges to sort out whether any of the accusations are false. Better to give sympathy to someone who's lying than act like a scumbag towards an actual victim.
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sundin13, I am asking about possibly invalidating the claims of some of the women based on the evidence and info that has been given.
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/20/17

kadmos1 wrote:

sundin13, I am asking about possibly invalidating the claims of some of the women based on the evidence and info that has been given.


Yet you offer no such evidence or information and you still wish to discuss whether or not the alleged victims are lying. Do you see why that comes off as you just trying to play backseat judge with nothing to go on but gossip and conjecture?
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kadmos1 wrote:

sundin13, I am asking about possibly invalidating the claims of some of the women based on the evidence and info that has been given.


None of us have any evidence or info that we can use to invalidate (or prove) any of their claims though. So what's the point of speculating? Cases of rape and sexual assault are hard enough to prove as it is, as it's almost always a case of his word against hers. The only difference in this case is that it's their 60 words against his 1.
Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/23/17
Man, people wonder why these kind of 'open secrets' go on so long without victims coming forward, yet when victims do come forward they're accused of lying for fame and fortune.

Kindly disengage.
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