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Posted 10/21/17
Hi, everyone,

So I'm really confused, I research law a lot, it interests me a lot and recently I got fired from my part time job, but my boss hasn't spoken, texted, called a word to me since I had the job. In other words, not only did I not get any warning(which is ok) but he didn't even tell me I was fired. Can a boss do that? Can they just fire you and never tell you? Just never put you back on the schedule again, or do they need to at least tell you, "Hey, you're fired." I've been researching for a long time and no one has this same issue as me. I'm just wondering if anyone might know these circumstances and what I could do? If anything?

Thanks a lot:)
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Posted 10/21/17
I think you might want to question your boss or former, don't use text, keep on leaving legit messages, call the person and so forth and demand an answer. they can fire you for no reason and if you're a temp and/or part time they don't have to work you until they need you, if you're in the states that is, I don't know the rules for other countries. if the boss continues to not call, then start showing up (possibly by appointment) and if that finally doesn't work (possibly try a bit of a couple months) then I'm not certain what you can do after that, I'm not certain you can get a lawyer and force them to demand answers. finally is it really worth it? find another job in the time being, just don't drop them off on your resume there could have been a reason or not, but better safe than sorry when it comes to this sort of situation and new jobs. best of luck and I hope that some of this helps with your search suggestions.
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Posted 10/21/17
If I understand you correctly, you have not been "fired" but you are no longer on the schedule for new shifts. If no one has actually told you not to come back I would at least try to speak to someone to make sure it wasn't a mistake and your name was removed in error.

I don't know about your country but in the UK that would probably constitute "constructive dissmisal" (where the employer engineers a situation where you can't do your job and then fires you for not doing your job) which is illegal.
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Posted 10/21/17

konjfful wrote:

Hi, everyone,

So I'm really confused, I research law a lot, it interests me a lot and recently I got fired from my part time job, but my boss hasn't spoken, texted, called a word to me since I had the job. In other words, not only did I not get any warning(which is ok) but he didn't even tell me I was fired. Can a boss do that? Can they just fire you and never tell you? Just never put you back on the schedule again, or do they need to at least tell you, "Hey, you're fired." I've been researching for a long time and no one has this same issue as me. I'm just wondering if anyone might know these circumstances and what I could do? If anything?

Thanks a lot:)


You would need to consult an employment attorney in your state to get a definitive answer. But as a general rule of thumb, in the United States, you can be fired for any reason, at any time, with little-to-no notice, unless:

a) Your firing is related to your race, color, creed, national origin, sex, gender, or disability status,
b) Your employer owes you money for work that you have already performed (which is wage theft)
c) Your firing is retaliation for a harassment claim (gender, racial, disability, etc.)
d) Your firing is related to a pregnancy,
e) You have an employment contract that specifies a termination process.

Giving notice is a common courtesy, but does not have the force of law, in most cases. Particular industries in particular states might have additional protections--although often those do not apply to part-time workers. If you feel your firing was related to any of those things, check with the EEOC or your state's Secretary of State office. Otherwise, if you feel you were wronged, talk to a lawyer.
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This is actually becoming a common practice in WA state. Basically you get taken off the schedule and they randomly put you on some shift 5 mo from now and then terminate you on the basis of job abandonment. Its "less messy" then actually firing someone and they can usually duck paying unemployment since your still and employee technically for a few months. Its kind of cowardly if you ask me but I know a lot of businesses do it.
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Posted 10/24/17 , edited 10/24/17
if you havent been told, then how do you even know you're fired then?

if you just havent been put on schedule, that doesnt necessarily mean your job has been permanently terminated.

and if you are part time, they are not obligated to give you shifts every time they put up a new schedule.
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Posted 10/24/17

DevinKuska wrote:

This is actually becoming a common practice in WA state. Basically you get taken off the schedule and they randomly put you on some shift 5 mo from now and then terminate you on the basis of job abandonment. Its "less messy" then actually firing someone and they can usually duck paying unemployment since your still and employee technically for a few months. Its kind of cowardly if you ask me but I know a lot of businesses do it.


That's something to go to the local news station about, along with contacting your congresspeople and the BBB.
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Posted 10/24/17 , edited 10/24/17
if they didn't tell you how do you know that you were fired? I would just call and ask/email/come in person. I would contact your employer for more information instead of seeking for answers here.

It's "at will" here in Arizona. You can quit or they can fire you at any time, no question asked.
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Posted 10/26/17
Be thankful this won't effect EI

Or maybe it will, what else is new with the world of two faced scumbags.
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Posted 11/7/17

DevinKuska wrote:

This is actually becoming a common practice in WA state. Basically you get taken off the schedule and they randomly put you on some shift 5 mo from now and then terminate you on the basis of job abandonment. Its "less messy" then actually firing someone and they can usually duck paying unemployment since your still and employee technically for a few months. Its kind of cowardly if you ask me but I know a lot of businesses do it.


That sort of happened to my brother in his part-time job. He was not given any schedule anymore and was told that he'd be on break or something then we get a letter saying he's fired because he wasn't showing up at work. It was kind of annoying and my dad thinks it's cause a new law had been passed that if part-timers worked enough months, they should be given actual jobs. This stupid thing is a loophole because they fired my brother in a way that makes it seem like it was his fault.
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