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Like a needle in a haystack I know. But surely there are some legitimate things both sides agree on. Not "should" agree on but actually agree with each other on.

Maybe think of a simple everyday problem and maybe offer up some legislative fix.

Free things are good. So when you get the bill from the power company you say "shit". Just like how car companies have been instructed to make more fuel efficient cars I think utilities companies should introduce more solar arrays and wind farms to use nature to bring costs down.
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Racism is bad. They just cannot agree on the definition of racist.
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Support of national troops.
A balanced national budget.
Freedoms established by an upheld constitution.
A burgeoning middle class.
A healthy and growing economy.
Security and defense of the nation.
Lowering crime rates.


The semantics and details of how to accomplish each of those are different for each party. And it's a common political tactic to claim "the other side" doesn't believe in xyz. But the general goals tend to be the same.
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from what i read, Republicans actually agree about global warming / climate change. the only reason they are against measures is due to partisan politics.
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Are you referring to a classical Liberal?
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- Utilitarianism
- Individualism
- Democracy
- A sharp public/private distinction
- Technologism (the advancement of technology and its expansion into all facets of life)
- Whig history

Each side might define the parameters of these things differently, but both are committed to them as values. You only really hear actual leftists (which few "liberals" are), or actual traditionalists (which few "conservatives" are), question any of these, because they form the framework upon which our society thinks about politics. Of course, the structures that actually govern society don't necessarily behave according to these, but almost everyone talks like they do, or ought to.
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Watching Anime > Watching the news
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thomascgty wrote:

Are you referring to a classical Liberal?


Not just classical but also modern day. The Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein backers. The late night Stephen Colbert fans. The people from the women's march. Your everyday liberal.
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We can agree on pretty much anything that isn't political. So, most things.
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There is a general agreement that Anime is amazing.
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Bernie Sanders isn't a 'modern liberal'. He is a deluded socialist who thinks that money just magically grows on trees.
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Things the Democrats and GOP can agree on--
That we basically elected Buddy Love for president:


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MysticGon wrote:

....I think utilities companies should introduce more solar arrays and wind farms to use nature to bring costs down.


Problem with this is that the cost of building solar arrays and wind farms will ultimately be born by the the consumers and possibly tax payers. There are already line items on my utility bills for such "cost saving" projects. In other words, my bills are higher than they would be without them.
Fossil fuels are still abundant in this country, and are far more cost effective than green tech. Eventually this dynamic will change, and the free market will determine when the switch to solar, wind, or other should occur. That is, if the government would stop meddling.

However, I applaud your choice of topics, and hope we do manage to find some common ground.

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- The costs of medical services and prescription drugs are out of control.
- We would like to have clean water to drink and fresh air to breath
- We would like to have a strong middle class.
- That war should be the last answer, and the lives of our fellow citizens should not be sacrificed without an extremely good reason.
- Our veterans deserve whatever they need when they get home. This includes adequate healthcare and mental health services.
- Children should have access to a quality education that can teach them real world skills.
- We have too many politicians in this country that are greedy, and they care more about helping themselves or their friends versus listening to the people they represent, and proposing solutions for the betterment of their constituents.

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ChiisanaMausu wrote:


MysticGon wrote:

....I think utilities companies should introduce more solar arrays and wind farms to use nature to bring costs down.


Problem with this is that the cost of building solar arrays and wind farms will ultimately be born by the the consumers and possibly tax payers. There are already line items on my utility bills for such "cost saving" projects. In other words, my bills are higher than they would be without them.
Fossil fuels are still abundant in this country, and are far more cost effective than green tech. Eventually this dynamic will change, and the free market will determine when the switch to solar, wind, or other should occur. That is, if the government would stop meddling.

However, I applaud your choice of topics, and hope we do manage to find some common ground.



This line of thinking I don't understand. Yes fossil fuel right now are not at too dangerous levels but that obviously wont last. The free market would react late to it so the customer prices would have already increased before companies start to make the switch meaning the consumer would have to pay more on two fronts.

Aren't preparatory and preventative measures better than reactionary? Isn't that why people prepare for retirement instead of waiting till retirement to do something about how they are going to live.

If you prepare and develop green energy now it means less expenditure in the future.

Thats my take.

As for the thread title they agree on most things but disagree on how to solve the problems in a country
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