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Keeping abortion legal. :|


Uh, no. Conservatives are against abortion.
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That the Horseshoe theory is true
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nonspecificscientific wrote:

Keeping abortion legal. :|


Uh, no. Conservatives are against abortion.


If they really were, abortion would be illegal by now. You see, just like the Pro-Choice movement, the PLM is a machine propagating propaganda, promising to win fights, and save babies to gain votes and keep their little pro-life websites earning enough cash to keep themselves afloat. And for what? 60,000,000 babies destroyed since Roe v. Wade, and countless more through IVF cryogenics. The saying is true, if you dance with the Devil, you've got a date in hell. We've been too focused on incrementalism rather than immediatism, that we've let countless lives be lost in the process, just to pass another Parent Signature Bill, or Fetus-Pain Bill, or whatever these idiots come up with. And they say, "Not with my tax dollars!"

Gee, if I'm ever being ripped limb from limb, I would sure hope a brave soul would proclaim, "Not with my tax dollars!"
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Anime.
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mxdan wrote:


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from what i read, Republicans actually agree about global warming / climate change. the only reason they are against measures is due to partisan politics.


I don't agree with this simply because as a Republian, I don't support global warming / climate change. It is because there's much evidence that it doesn't exist.


Highly educated republicans do agree that there is merit to climate change. I've worked with many of them. Any geology class at a university will show you how much of an effect atmospheric change has. And I mean really, it isn't rocket science. Introducing dense gases into enclosed environments traps light waves from a natural dissipation. There are methods that naturally try to balance things out but there is no evidence to suggest that it is a myth, especially when we can replicate it in small experiments.


I wasn't looking for your opinion, thank you very much.


This is a forum, a place of discussion. You cannot expect anything but an opinion, or someone responding to ones beliefs in general. Mean spirited comment and such should be discouraged. However, to give your opinion, than being annoyed when someone responds at all, sounds completely nonsensical to the expectation one should have.

You just have to get used to it, I am afraid. If you do not want people to respond, than do not post in the first place.



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Net Neutrality and Porn? Maybe.
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Every regulation you try to impose will not stop radicalized individuals from creating mass shootings. Anybody with an IQ of 95 and above could make a weapon from home depot. The left is uneducated on the realities of guns and every regulation they support will do nothing to change the problem. For $45 you could go to Walgreen's, buy burner phone and a propane tank. The remote detonated bomb would be practically untraceable and level an entire floor of a building. So whenever you think of taking my constitutional right away how ever little by little just know that a 16 year old can create a dirty bomb in his garage and kill half a city.
Please stop taking rights away that scare the people who want to stay in power. It is not by accident free speech is also under attack.
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China can force us to follow regulations on our carbon footprint while not curbing their own. It's the very idea of taking it in the ass and not being able to return the favor. If you want the Chinese to dominate us economically you can just move to their pollution infested country. The reason why our sides cant relate is because you don't even attempt to understand the other side.
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tacos.


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The only thing both conservatives and liberals agree on is that the United States is going to hell in a handbasket and that things need to change.

They diverge once you ask what needs to change and how should that change come about.
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That liberals and conservatives are dying breed, quickly being replaced by bigoted radicals and reactionaries.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Racism is bad. They just cannot agree on the definition of racist.


That was actually my very first thought. Racism is bad and yet The Liberals think any non Liberal is a racist. Simply and solely for being a conservative.
Yet Conservatives feel Liberals are often anti white, even the white Liberals.

The word racism is actually very rarely used accurately. I dont think there are all that many people who think they are superior or that someone else is inferior based on race.
Solely on race i mean.

I haven't even read any other comments yet but i had to quote you because it(your post) my my immediate thought.

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Watching Anime > Watching the news


Haha yeah that is a good one. So many lefties seem to like anime, surprises me a bit.
Throw in play video games as well, both sides can agree that video games are good.


After many a conversation I had with many political assholes, I came to the conclusion that both just have different definitions for racist at most, and most cannot clearly enunciate any guidelines (Including me). Another factor is perceived truth, which form the basis of solutions to different circumstances.

If refugees had a great deal of terrorists, it would seem logical to impose much more restrictions. Yet, many disagree on a factual basis, rather than a simply moral one. Or, if women and minorities were discriminated against, it would be logical to find a solution, though many persons disagree, and believe that many of the problems experienced today by minorities are heavily exaggerated.

Funnily enough, I used to get by at times by asking "If this happens or refers to a black person, would I think it would be racist"? Just a bit of humor.

I am pretty optimistic after this revelation. People are not usually morally depraved, they are usually just stupid, naive, moronic, etc.

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That liberals and conservatives are dying breed, quickly being replaced by bigoted radicals and reactionaries.


Agreed.
It seems the entire narrative today is in the hands of extremists at both ends.
That is all you hear about in the media: extremists.

Meanwhile MOST people, I believe, fall closer to the middle. However, when being constantly bombarded by how HORRIBLE one side or the other is (the extremists anyway), people seem to want to distance themselves from whichever side is least in line with their own values...thereby inching a little closer to their own extreme.

The really ugly stuff begins to happen when one side or the other starts painting everyone who does not agree with them, as an extremist.
That is how the left is now portraying even mild conservatist notions are "far right", and the right is portraying even mild liberal notions are "far left / SJW".

And then you let tribalism do its thing...

If everyone took a step back and stopped thinking like cavemen, I'm pretty sure they would all realize that no, most conservatives are not bible thumping pro-life racists who worship at shrines to Capitalism, and no, most liberals are not white-hating communists who truly believe there are 20+ genders.

One thing I wish we ALL could agree on, which in my opinion is at this point more important than almost any other political discourse we can have... is that not everyone is an extremist, and the other side is mostly comprised of normal well-intentioned people; Not "literally Hitler" nor "Libtards".

Shame nobody's gonna read that or care.
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I see a lot of "big pictures" being talked about but let's be realistic the two sides will not like and will likely never tolerate each other. But just like a work place they can collaborate to complete a task.

I think that both sides want to reduce the national debt. Democrats want to do that AND provide social programs and infrastructure. Republicans want to cut taxes. So I think both sides should find ways to actually pay down the $20 trillion debt and put it in law.
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Posted 10/30/17 , edited 10/30/17

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AsahinaInu wrote:

That liberals and conservatives are dying breed, quickly being replaced by bigoted radicals and reactionaries.


Agreed.
It seems the entire narrative today is in the hands of extremists at both ends.
That is all you hear about in the media: extremists.

Meanwhile MOST people, I believe, fall closer to the middle. However, when being constantly bombarded by how HORRIBLE one side or the other is (the extremists anyway), people seem to want to distance themselves from whichever side is least in line with their own values...thereby inching a little closer to their own extreme.

The really ugly stuff begins to happen when one side or the other starts painting everyone who does not agree with them, as an extremist.
That is how the left is now portraying even mild conservatist notions are "far right", and the right is portraying even mild liberal notions are "far left / SJW".

And then you let tribalism do its thing...

If everyone took a step back and stopped thinking like cavemen, I'm pretty sure they would all realize that no, most conservatives are not bible thumping pro-life racists who worship at shrines to Capitalism, and no, most liberals are not white-hating communists who truly believe there are 20+ genders.

One thing I wish we ALL could agree on, which in my opinion is at this point more important than almost any other political discourse we can have... is that not everyone is an extremist, and the other side is mostly comprised of normal well-intentioned people; Not "literally Hitler" nor "Libtards".

Shame nobody's gonna read that or care.


I agree with you. I'd also add how this has a fair bit of blame on social media algorithms. The way we think is directly tied to narrative driven speech that inhabits the brain. We follow fluid trains of thought and begin to build on and around it if it isn't challenged or simply appealed to early on. This is why it's hard to show new philosophy to an older person. Algorithms on our social networks basically tailor themselves to a specific train of thought and feed you information you initially want to hear to confirm bias -- an echo chamber. The effect is a bunch of people who begin to see the world as one path without any real dissent, people build on it, thus making it become more radical.
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