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whatever haruhi wants, haruhi gets
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auroraloose wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


auroraloose wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

The Endless Eight is basically the world's second cutest imouto saying "Kyon Kun Denwa!"


Wait - I'm not sure we've gone over this. Who's the cutest?



You are, my Auroraloose.






I simultaneously guessed that was a trap and genuinely fell for it anyway. Maybe I am the cutest imouto


Indeed!

*Gives you an onii hug

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So no one has any thoughts? I'm surprised no one jumped in to try to explain the metaphysics of the show, since people love speculating about such. Though I'm more interested in the phenomenology.
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it's been years since i watched the show. yes, i even watched the dreaded endless 8 - i assumed it was just a filler (and honestly, do we really need that many episodes to make a point that Kyon was stuck in a time loop? of course not). it was nice seeing the Haruhi references in Lucky Star though.
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I remember when I started watching Naruto and posting on a forum dedicated to Naruto about 11 years ago and people were obsessed with this show. One of these days I need to check it out and see what all the hype was about. I thought it was like a music based show because everyone had signatures with the girls playing instruments.
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There is a philosophy (don't know the name of it though) that says: only my mind is real; everything else is a creation of that mind. That sums up the show I think.
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Something I've always found interesting about the "Endless Eight" is that, in the novels, you only see the final loop. So the first seven episodes are either anime-original, or (considering the short stories are published in a magazine before being compiled into novels) they were originally looped in the magazine, and only the last one made it into the novel.

As for what the "Endless Eight" is, besides just trolling readers/viewers, it's seen by some as one of the triggers for the events of The Disappearance. Also, while probably unintentional, some see it as evidence for the 'Kyon is God' theory.
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Gafennec wrote:

There is a philosophy (don't know the name of it though) that says: only my mind is real; everything else is a creation of that mind. That sums up the show I think.


I want to stop thinking about the amount of work in figuring out Serial:Experiment Lain. "LAWL"
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maybe everything in the series were nothing but dreams/delusions from an unpopular guy (Kyon).

>"but he wasn't unpopular!"
>in his dreams he wasn't.
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Lord_Wunder wrote:

Something I've always found interesting about the "Endless Eight" is that, in the novels, you only see the final loop. So the first seven episodes are either anime-original, or (considering the short stories are published in a magazine before being compiled into novels) they were originally looped in the magazine, and only the last one made it into the novel.

As for what the "Endless Eight" is, besides just trolling readers/viewers, it's seen by some as one of the triggers for the events of The Disappearance. Also, while probably unintentional, some see it as evidence for the 'Kyon is God' theory.


What is this "Kyon is God" thing? I don't see it - at all.
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It's bit of a broad question to explain Haruhi Suzumiya.

I could tackle the endless eight though. It was basically a groundhog day scenario that was created by Haruhi not finishing her summer homework and also her dissatisfaction with not being able to spend more time with Kyon. That being said, because the characters (aside from yuki) didn't know that they were in a time loop, the endless eight is actually a really boring set of 8 episodes that basically show the same thing over and over and over again.
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If you are having trouble understanding the latest DVD version of Haruhi you would have really had trouble with the broadcast version. In the original version the episodes were all mixed up. For example, the film that was the club project was aired first, and after that we went through the episodes being announced as "This is Episode 2 - (another voice) no, it is Episode 1", etc. Season 2, which was the endless eight was broadcast later (i.e. in season 2) than the original series, even though, time wise it occurs in the middle of Season 1. In the latest incarnation, Funimation has put everything in the "proper" time sequence.


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abeltensro wrote:

It was basically a groundhog day scenario that was created by Haruhi not finishing her summer homework and also her dissatisfaction with not being able to spend more time with Kyon.


Except that Haruhi did finish her homework; she explicitly states that she finished it as soon as possible so that she wouldn't have to worry about it later. It was Kyon who didn't finish his. She looped the universe so that the Brigade could have a group homework session, which she probably saw as a 'summery' way to end the break, and so that Kyon wouldn't fail.


auroraloose wrote:

What is this "Kyon is God" thing? I don't see it - at all.


There's a few different interpretations to the theory. In general, it suggests that Haruhi's reality warping powers aren't hers, rather they were gifted to her by Kyon. So basically, he's unconsciously using his powers through Haruhi instead of using them himself, because, as he says in the opening monologue, he would rather be a side character than the lead (although ironically, that made him more of a main character in the long run).

In regards to the "Endless Eight," some point out that Nagato, Asahina, Koizumi, and Kyon all have some awareness of the loop. Nagato remembers everything because she transcends space-time. Asahina confirms the loop as she can't contact the future. And both Koizumi and Kyon frequently experience deja vu. This makes sense for Koizumi, as he can detect alternate realities, but where does Kyon's awareness come from? And why is only he able to solve the loop? It's because Haruhi created with his power, or that he created it himself through Haruhi. That's also why the solution was for Kyon to finally finish his homework because the loop was ultimately his doing. Or at least that's how the theory goes.

There are some other events proponents of the theory like to point to, mostly dealing with the movie and the later books, but I think I've rambled long enough already.
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zendude wrote:

AH. I remember arguing about this when I was in my HEY-DAY of Animu watching. Though, at the end of the day. Tsuruya is BEST GIRL. "LAWL"



Tsuruya-san is a better Haruhi.

Anyway.... to Explain Haruhi Suzumiya.

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auroraloose wrote:

I was pleasantly surprised that Crunchyroll is now streaming The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya; having learned of anime only in the past few years, I hadn't seen it. But now that I have, I am curious: Haruhi is the kind of anime ripe for analysis; what are the major schools of thought on/interpretations of it?


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