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http://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-woman-killed-12-year-boy-jumps-off/story?id=50810502

Poor kid probably got bullied or something but this is screwed up


A 12-year-old boy who police said jumped off a highway overpass in an attempted suicide took the life of a young woman instead.

Marisa Harris, 22, was headed eastbound on Interstate 66 near the Cedar Lane overpass at around 4:15 p.m. when the boy came crashing down onto her 2005 Ford Explorer, Virginia State Police said in a statement. Harris was killed but her 23-year-old passenger and the 12-year-old boy both survived. The incident is being investigated as an attempted suicide, according to police.

"Based on the investigation and witness accounts, a 12-year-old male jumped from the Cedar Lane overpass," Virginia State Police said in a statement. "The impact incapacitated the vehicle’s driver."

Police said the car's passenger then "steered the vehicle off the interstate ... [and] came to a stop on the left shoulder against the jersey wall."
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That's pretty sad. Hope the kid lives and finds meaning in his life. He got a second chance. She did not. RIP.
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Punishment should happened. Being bullied and other stuff dont justify this at all. Let the kid really hate life.
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As it's said consequences have actions, well this suicide attempt had a fatal consequence. While I don't know about arresting the boy, what he did was certainly horrendous, even if he was getting bullied.
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kadmos1 wrote:

As it's said consequences have actions, well this suicide attempt had a fatal consequence. While I don't know about arresting the boy, what he did was certainly horrendous, even if he was getting bullied.


UMMM are you serious, kid should learn the hard way now. Being bullied is no excuse for anything.
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nanikore2 wrote:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-woman-killed-12-year-boy-jumps-off/story?id=50810502

Poor kid probably got bullied or something but this is screwed up


A 12-year-old boy who police said jumped off a highway overpass in an attempted suicide took the life of a young woman instead.

Marisa Harris, 22, was headed eastbound on Interstate 66 near the Cedar Lane overpass at around 4:15 p.m. when the boy came crashing down onto her 2005 Ford Explorer, Virginia State Police said in a statement. Harris was killed but her 23-year-old passenger and the 12-year-old boy both survived. The incident is being investigated as an attempted suicide, according to police.

"Based on the investigation and witness accounts, a 12-year-old male jumped from the Cedar Lane overpass," Virginia State Police said in a statement. "The impact incapacitated the vehicle’s driver."

Police said the car's passenger then "steered the vehicle off the interstate ... [and] came to a stop on the left shoulder against the jersey wall."


Yeah blame the bullies for this idiots actions that caused the death of another.

"Poor him and everything"

I feel no sympathy for this fool. Foolish decisions come with consequences and I hope he deals with his for the rest of his life, however short that will be.
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onemannation20, that's what my point was. If a person is abused, raped, harassed, or assaulted, that is horrific. However, it doesn't justify committing something outrageous. However, it may explain a person's mindset when that outrageous act was committed.
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In my view, it all depends on whether or not the consequence can be considered a reasonable result of said action. For example...

-A UVA student attempted to steal a poster from North Korea in Pyongyang, and was sentenced. Of the numerous arguments, one that stuck out to me was that his "punishment", was for a crime with a legally prescribed set of punishments. Thus, it can be ruled that legal punishment for a crime is indeed a reasonable thing to expect when committing a crime.

-A woman walks out of her home, and is raped on her front lawn. To me, the woman could not have possible foretold she would have been raped, if she merely walked outside. To me, it is not reasonable to assume that to walk outside ones home would logically result in her rape.

I am more or less leaning to the idea that this is a tragic series of events that seems like it would not have been easy to divine. The coincidental nature, his possible lack of knowledge, etc.

Just my view.


Edit: It appears to have been on an overpass. My mistake. I would assume that it would be reasonable for his suicide attempt to cause major traffic disruptions, then.
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Great. Now he'll have even more guilt and shame, ironic.
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Sadly, it seems she would have lost either way. If the boy had jumped sooner, she more than likely would have hit him and been forced to live the rest of her life with that memory. Instead her life was taken and the boy’s was spared. Without sounding disrespectful or inhumane, I hope the boy gets help, all while never forgetting what he had done.
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Suicide is messed up.
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I hope hes prosecuted. If you want to kill yourself, thats fine. But dont be a bitch and try to take an easy way out by making someone else do the dirtywork.
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amejia0 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-woman-killed-12-year-boy-jumps-off/story?id=50810502

Poor kid probably got bullied or something but this is screwed up


A 12-year-old boy who police said jumped off a highway overpass in an attempted suicide took the life of a young woman instead.

Marisa Harris, 22, was headed eastbound on Interstate 66 near the Cedar Lane overpass at around 4:15 p.m. when the boy came crashing down onto her 2005 Ford Explorer, Virginia State Police said in a statement. Harris was killed but her 23-year-old passenger and the 12-year-old boy both survived. The incident is being investigated as an attempted suicide, according to police.

"Based on the investigation and witness accounts, a 12-year-old male jumped from the Cedar Lane overpass," Virginia State Police said in a statement. "The impact incapacitated the vehicle’s driver."

Police said the car's passenger then "steered the vehicle off the interstate ... [and] came to a stop on the left shoulder against the jersey wall."


Yeah blame the bullies for this idiots actions that caused the death of another.

"Poor him and everything"

I feel no sympathy for this fool. Foolish decisions come with consequences and I hope he deals with his for the rest of his life, however short that will be.


Is that sarcasm?

God I hope so >_>.

Cause I don't feel as though I should need to post the brain development of a twelve year old. They, quite literally, aren't discerning consequences in the matter you and I do.


I hope hes prosecuted. If you want to kill yourself, thats fine. But dont be a bitch and try to take an easy way out by making someone else do the dirtywork.


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In the last decade, a growing body of longitudinal neuroimaging research has demonstrated that adolescence is a period of continued brain growth and change, challenging longstanding assumptions that the brain was largely finished maturing by puberty [1–3]. The frontal lobes, home to key components of the neural circuitry underlying “executive functions” such as planning, working memory, and impulse control, are among the last areas of the brain to mature; they may not be fully developed until halfway through the third decade of life [2]. This finding has prompted interest in linking stage of neuromaturation to maturity of judgment. Indeed, the promise of a biological explanation for often puzzling adolescent health risk behavior has captured the attention of the media, parents, policymakers, and clinicians alike. Although such research is currently underway, many neuroscientists argue that empirical support for a causal relationship between neuromaturational processes and real-world behavior is currently lacking [4].


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erikson%27s_stages_of_psychosocial_development


Competence: industry vs. inferiority (latency, school age, 5–12 years)

Existential Question: Can I Make it in the World of People and Things?

The aim to bring a productive situation to completion gradually supersedes the whims and wishes of play. The fundamentals of technology are developed. The failure to master trust, autonomy, and industrious skills may cause the child to doubt his or her future, leading to shame, guilt, and the experience of defeat and inferiority.[8]


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On a personal note, all of you with this rigid idea of consequences have completely over simplified this boys position to a viewpoint of a full grown adult. Do you honestly think a twelve year old who is being accosted to the point of him taking his own life (Which ironically he probably doesn't even fully understand yet) is thinking about the consequences? When you were twelve did you think about other people in your selfish actions often?

Some of you should really consider not having kids...
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@people saying bullying is not an excuse for attempting suicide must not have experienced severe bullying. Or maybe they're the ones who are the bullies.

Anyways, this situation is sad all around. As I saw someone else say, hopefully, the boy lives and can turn his life around and do some good. Sad he was pushed to this point, especially being so young.
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mxdan wrote:


amejia0 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-woman-killed-12-year-boy-jumps-off/story?id=50810502

Poor kid probably got bullied or something but this is screwed up


A 12-year-old boy who police said jumped off a highway overpass in an attempted suicide took the life of a young woman instead.

Marisa Harris, 22, was headed eastbound on Interstate 66 near the Cedar Lane overpass at around 4:15 p.m. when the boy came crashing down onto her 2005 Ford Explorer, Virginia State Police said in a statement. Harris was killed but her 23-year-old passenger and the 12-year-old boy both survived. The incident is being investigated as an attempted suicide, according to police.

"Based on the investigation and witness accounts, a 12-year-old male jumped from the Cedar Lane overpass," Virginia State Police said in a statement. "The impact incapacitated the vehicle’s driver."

Police said the car's passenger then "steered the vehicle off the interstate ... [and] came to a stop on the left shoulder against the jersey wall."


Yeah blame the bullies for this idiots actions that caused the death of another.

"Poor him and everything"

I feel no sympathy for this fool. Foolish decisions come with consequences and I hope he deals with his for the rest of his life, however short that will be.


Is that sarcasm?

God I hope so >_>.

Cause I don't feel as though I should need to post the brain development of a twelve year old. They, quite literally, aren't discerning consequences in the matter you and I do.


I hope hes prosecuted. If you want to kill yourself, thats fine. But dont be a bitch and try to take an easy way out by making someone else do the dirtywork.


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In the last decade, a growing body of longitudinal neuroimaging research has demonstrated that adolescence is a period of continued brain growth and change, challenging longstanding assumptions that the brain was largely finished maturing by puberty [1–3]. The frontal lobes, home to key components of the neural circuitry underlying “executive functions” such as planning, working memory, and impulse control, are among the last areas of the brain to mature; they may not be fully developed until halfway through the third decade of life [2]. This finding has prompted interest in linking stage of neuromaturation to maturity of judgment. Indeed, the promise of a biological explanation for often puzzling adolescent health risk behavior has captured the attention of the media, parents, policymakers, and clinicians alike. Although such research is currently underway, many neuroscientists argue that empirical support for a causal relationship between neuromaturational processes and real-world behavior is currently lacking [4].


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erikson%27s_stages_of_psychosocial_development


Competence: industry vs. inferiority (latency, school age, 5–12 years)

Existential Question: Can I Make it in the World of People and Things?

The aim to bring a productive situation to completion gradually supersedes the whims and wishes of play. The fundamentals of technology are developed. The failure to master trust, autonomy, and industrious skills may cause the child to doubt his or her future, leading to shame, guilt, and the experience of defeat and inferiority.[8]


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On a personal note, all of you with this rigid idea of consequences have completely over simplified this boys position to a viewpoint of a full grown adult. Do you honestly think a twelve year old who is being accosted to the point of him taking his own life (Which ironically he probably doesn't even fully understand yet) is thinking about the consequences? When you were twelve did you think about other people in your selfish actions often?

Some of you should really consider not having kids...


Thanks for the Psychology lesson Senpai

Got anything else too add to your late night crunchyroll seminar?

The issue here isn't about if he was actually thinking about the consequences, it's about the cold hard fact that his actions directly lead to someone elses death.

Thinking about said consequences does not equal premeditation. Nor does the lack of such thought excuse him from having to deal with the consequences of his actions.

I'm not saying he should be jailed for manslaughter or whatever degree murder.

But he shouldn't get off scott free just cus "i'm young please take it easy on meh cus muh muhhh muhhh brainnnn isn't fully developed."



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