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Posted 10/31/17 , edited 11/1/17

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oh god look at the idiots wanting to blame the kid he was pushed to suicide and by bad luck killed someone else when his attempt was on his own life.

The boy needs a therapist not prison or punishment.
People saying they don't stand for the poor him part obviously have no clue what it's like to try to kill yourself it just goes to show how insensitive and horrible some people are :/

The kid will hate that this happened for his whole life it was an accident caused by his attempt on his life.


Oh look a completely unbiased opinion. Lets just absolve the kid of all responsibility cus his feelings were hurt. If he wanted to commit suicide he could have done it without putting other peoples lives at risk you know? Who looks at a freeway and thinks if I jump into that traffic I won't be putting anybody but myself in danger.

And yes I do know what it's like to attempt suicide so don't assume you know everything about a persons perspective.

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Posted 10/31/17 , edited 11/1/17
I feel, and just feeling here, a bit perturbed by the idea that "stupid" people should just roll up and die. My main reasoning here, to put it it lightly, is that he is a 12 year old, quite capable of moral functioning, but likely in a pubescent or prepubescent state of mind, afflicted with suicidal tendencies. It seems odd to call a 12 year old in any cases to be "stupid", as if we should expect their conduct to be on the same level as that of adults.

In accordance to this, I also feel conflicted when people say moronic people should die. Well...do not morons deserve rights too? I mean, it ties into the notion he isn't a grown adult, versus an adult who we would expect to have a much clearer expectation of his actions, I suppose. Not sure, but it feels either side are either greatly overestimating or underestimating the rational capabilities of a preteen in that situation. Not quite sure.

I am fairly certain all of us remember what how idiotic we were as twelve year old. True, we probably never bore the responsibility for another person's death, but calling him a idiot seems no different than...perhaps lambasting a person with down syndrome for being mentally handicapped. Okay then, but...isn't that to be expected to an extent?

Though my biggest dislike is that, no one seems to understand the point of being tried as a juvenile, the idea being that young persons are much more likely to be rehabilitated successfully than fully fledged criminals.

That being said, I wouldn't say he has the mindset of a criminal, most likely. As always, I hope I do not offend any of you with my opinions. :(

Mental functioning at the moment is a bit low, but I could appreciate civilized replies.

Edit: Honestly? Why does it have to be punishment OR mental rehabilitation? Why cannot we utilize both to an appropriate degree?
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Posted 10/31/17 , edited 11/1/17

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Ryulightorb wrote:

oh god look at the idiots wanting to blame the kid he was pushed to suicide and by bad luck killed someone else when his attempt was on his own life.

The boy needs a therapist not prison or punishment.
People saying they don't stand for the poor him part obviously have no clue what it's like to try to kill yourself it just goes to show how insensitive and horrible some people are :/

The kid will hate that this happened for his whole life it was an accident caused by his attempt on his life.


Oh look a completely unbiased opinion. Lets just absolve the kid of all responsibility cus his feelings were hurt. If he wanted to commit suicide he could have done it without putting other peoples lives at risk you know? Who looks at a freeway and thinks if I jump into that traffic I won't be putting anybody but myself in danger.

And yes I do know what it's like to attempt suicide so don't assume you know everything about a persons perspective.




Yeah lets just blame the kid for an accident and ruin his life and others furthur because we don't have the capacity for emotion and are heartless monsters.

If you know then be empathetic and understand these proceedings should be based after logic but remain empathetic.

He does not deserve to be in prison for life.
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Posted 11/1/17 , edited 11/1/17

Ryulightorb wrote:


amejia0 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

oh god look at the idiots wanting to blame the kid he was pushed to suicide and by bad luck killed someone else when his attempt was on his own life.

The boy needs a therapist not prison or punishment.
People saying they don't stand for the poor him part obviously have no clue what it's like to try to kill yourself it just goes to show how insensitive and horrible some people are :/

The kid will hate that this happened for his whole life it was an accident caused by his attempt on his life.


Oh look a completely unbiased opinion. Lets just absolve the kid of all responsibility cus his feelings were hurt. If he wanted to commit suicide he could have done it without putting other peoples lives at risk you know? Who looks at a freeway and thinks if I jump into that traffic I won't be putting anybody but myself in danger.

And yes I do know what it's like to attempt suicide so don't assume you know everything about a persons perspective.




Yeah lets just blame the kid for an accident and ruin his life and others furthur because we don't have the capacity for emotion and are heartless monsters.

If you know then be empathetic and understand these proceedings should be based after logic but remain empathetic.

He does not deserve to be in prison for life.


The kid got bullied, feels bad, tried to kill himself and ends up in jail while the bullies get home free.
Screw this I'm going off bullying girls
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The kid got bullied, feels bad, tried to kill himself and ends up in jail while the bullies get home free.
Screw this I'm going off bullying girls


We live in an unempathetic world where those who need help are imprisoned and those who cause things to happen get away scott free.
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Posted 11/1/17 , edited 11/1/17

Ryulightorb wrote:


fredreload wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


amejia0 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

oh god look at the idiots wanting to blame the kid he was pushed to suicide and by bad luck killed someone else when his attempt was on his own life.

The boy needs a therapist not prison or punishment.
People saying they don't stand for the poor him part obviously have no clue what it's like to try to kill yourself it just goes to show how insensitive and horrible some people are :/

The kid will hate that this happened for his whole life it was an accident caused by his attempt on his life.


Oh look a completely unbiased opinion. Lets just absolve the kid of all responsibility cus his feelings were hurt. If he wanted to commit suicide he could have done it without putting other peoples lives at risk you know? Who looks at a freeway and thinks if I jump into that traffic I won't be putting anybody but myself in danger.

And yes I do know what it's like to attempt suicide so don't assume you know everything about a persons perspective.




Yeah lets just blame the kid for an accident and ruin his life and others furthur because we don't have the capacity for emotion and are heartless monsters.

If you know then be empathetic and understand these proceedings should be based after logic but remain empathetic.

He does not deserve to be in prison for life.


The kid got bullied, feels bad, tried to kill himself and ends up in jail while the bullies get home free.
Screw this I'm going off bullying girls


We live in an unempathetic world where those who need help are imprisoned and those who cause things to happen get away scott free.


I meant to say bully amejia0, but you get the idea

P.S I dunno how many feets, butts, and boobs I've gone through, and they're still coming. Guys got to drink milk you know
P.S I remember I was trying to hide my porn, the next second I end up in Valhalla

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Posted 11/1/17 , edited 11/1/17
He's 12.

Just a kid. He's not even a teenager yet, but the prosecution mentality in this thread is quite astounding. He has life threatening injuries, likely severe mental illness, and now he has to also live with the fact he killed someone else.

I think that's plenty. There's a reason the law takes into account young ages. Kids are not adults.

This wasn't a malicious act. This was an insanely careless decision like those children can make.

People want something or someone to blame, but in this case it was just a series of unfortunate events led by an ill child. How ironic is it that the woman that died was intending to help children like this?

Tragic.



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The kid got bullied, feels bad, tried to kill himself and ends up in jail while the bullies get home free.
Screw this I'm going off bullying girls


You're already bully those poor girl in your profile picture fred!
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Posted 11/4/17 , edited 11/4/17

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He's 12.

Just a kid. He's not even a teenager yet, but the prosecution mentality in this thread is quite astounding. He has life threatening injuries, likely severe mental illness, and now he has to also live with the fact he killed someone else.

I think that's plenty. There's a reason the law takes into account young ages. Kids are not adults.

This wasn't a malicious act. This was an insanely careless decision like those children can make.

People want something or someone to blame, but in this case it was just a series of unfortunate events led by an ill child. How ironic is it that the woman that died was intending to help children like this?

Tragic.





Agreed. I for the life of me can't understand the mentality behind these posts. It feels fundamentalist in nature. The fact that we have people who think this way in a western society with all the resources to understand the situation annoys me beyond belief. There is nothing worse than simplifying everything in order to justify your preconceived notions. Historically it is the reason awful things occur generationally.

And here I thought the internet revolution might change things outright.
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Posted 11/5/17 , edited 11/5/17
already thinking about committing suicide at the age of 12 ? it's sad but also pathetic how this country has become
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already thinking about committing suicide at the age of 12 ? it's sad but also pathetic how this country has become


with all the craps going on in this country.... i guess 12 yr might be too long for some.. it is sad..
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He should still be held accountable for his actions. His sad life should not be part of the statement of facts upon which the legal reasoning is done. If you look at every wrongdoer's life story, you'll always have something sad and you will never be able to punish anyone. Sadness is part of everyone's life and it was unfortunate that perhaps he couldn't handle his due to his age or that the bullying was that severe, but someone innocent paid the price for his conduct, a price steeper than that which bullying exacts, anyway, and he should not be left unpunished. You might reduce the punishment because of his mental disturbances if you can prove them, and obviously wait until he's healed before he must is punished as well as reduce the punishment possibly further due to his age, but zero punishment shouldn't be the first thing to jump to.

If he has a mental illness or suffered from some condition that would have driven the same average person in his shoes to commit this act and that actually alters the legal analysis, I take no issue with reducing or even eliminating a punishment, but it all needs to be done with a reasonable attempt to apply legal theory, and he should not be unpunished simply because people feel bad for him. That sort of reasoning would cause all kinds of chaos in the legal field.

At 12 years of age, most people are more than aware of the potential consequences of leaping onto an area with high traffic and that doing so can likely injure someone. Reckless and negligent behavior is to be deterred just as much as intentional wrongdoing should be.
Posted 11/5/17 , edited 11/6/17
Well there's never a valid excuse to kill yourself, especially when you're putting others in danger to succeed in this endeavor. Regardless, he's 12 years old, so there will be no prosecution or prison. Even if he was old enough, he probably got severely injured, and he has to live the rest of his life; knowing he took a life in the attempt of his own. Considering his age, it doesn't surprise me a 12 year old would take this sort of method. Although, age or life circumstances are no excuse for suicide.
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Holy shit people in this thread are fucking retarded. Seriously, this is some of the dumbest shit i've ever read.
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Posted 11/6/17 , edited 11/6/17
Oh well, he went and fucked up, end of story.
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