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Posted 1/26/18 , edited 1/27/18
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If you feel this is important enough and can relate to these women coming out, what's your story? Are you a minor? Because if you are over 30 and have no freaking clue what the touch of a man is like you can shove it. There are women out there with traumatizing stories and they don't need your VERY limited opinions.

Without social media these topics would only be featured on morning talk shows and I don't think your snobby ass watches those shows.
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Posted 1/26/18 , edited 2/4/18
good news: judge who only gave a 6-month sentence to Brock Turner (Stanford rapist of an unconscious woman) may be voted out.



The judge who sentenced Brock Turner to six months in jail for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman will be up for a recall vote later this year.
The petition to remove Judge Aaron Persky from the Santa Clara County Superior Court received enough valid signatures to get on the ballot in the state primaries, according to a statement by the court. In June, voters will decide whether to recall him on the statewide primary election ballot.

http://www.refinery29.com/2018/01/189125/brock-turner-judge-recall-vote
Posted 2/3/18 , edited 2/4/18
The philosophy of sexual assault ? There is a philosophy? I was under the impression it was an impulsive vice, when real of course.
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Posted 2/4/18 , edited 2/5/18

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The philosophy of sexual assault ? There is a philosophy? I was under the impression it was an impulsive vice, when real of course.


I presume the title was referring to the general morality of stances taken, assumptions made, etc. For example, innocent until proven guilty vs automatically believing every accuser, and the reasons to take either stance.
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Basically what Mishio1 said, philosophy in gender stances, what constitutes violation, etc.
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Posted 2/10/18 , edited 2/10/18
a Democrat Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia is now accused of sexual harassment



Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia (D-Bell Gardens) denied allegations that she made inappropriate advances on two men: a then-legislative staffer and a lobbyist. In a statement, she said she would take an unpaid leave of absence from the Legislature while she faces an investigation into her conduct.
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Sacramento was jolted by the allegations against Garcia, which were first published Thursday by Politico. The publication reported that Daniel Fierro, a former legislative staffer for Assemblyman Ian Calderon (D-Whittier), alleged Garcia stroked his back and buttocks, and reached for his groin at a legislative softball game in 2014.

Fierro told Calderon about the incident several weeks ago, and the assemblyman then reported it to the Assembly Rules Committee, which initiated an investigation.
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"I worried before [the story published] it would be treated or received differently because of the gender dynamics involved," Fierro said. "There is clearly a culture that affects both men and women in the Capitol that needs to be improved on and made stronger so the Capitol can do the good work that it has to do."

Politico also reported on an unnamed lobbyist who said Garcia, who is unmarried, propositioned him and attempted to grab his crotch at a fundraising event in 2017. The lobbyist told the publication he did not report the incident formally.
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Abigail Saguy, a professor of sociology and gender at UCLA, said reports of women harassing men have been rare in part because the power dynamic, often a driver of harassing behavior, favors men in the workplace. She also said culturally, women are seen as a "subordinated gender."

"There's quite a bit of social expectation that women wouldn't be sexual harassers," said Saguy, author of "What is Sexual Harassment?"

She said the Garcia allegations fit the mold because she has "considerable power" while her accusers do not.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-cristina-garcia-sexual-harassment-investigation-20180209-story.html
Cristina Garcia actually appeared as one of the women in Time's magazine breaking the silence about sexual harassment...except this time she's being accused of being a harasser herself.
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Posted 4/26/18 , edited 4/28/18
I had some suspicion on the recent recontinued charge against Bill Cosby. The charge against Bill Cosby is made into top news and get many hours of coverage; however, this raping were revealed to be a norm across the Hollywood culture and other powerful figures in Hollywood did not get the same long coverage in top news. My suspicion is that the rape victims is being manipulated into targeting Bill Cosby because they were too traumatized to blame the white rapists who might be behind the actually raping. In the past, there is stigma toward rape victims and rape victims will receive ostracion, harassment, and threats for exposing the raping unless they blame a black person for the raping; they could blame a black scapegoat for the raping to gain support for their victimization. They could blaming Bill Cosby for the raping from the hope that this accusation could be extend toward many other rapists in Hollywood. The rage by Bill Cosby is attributed to his "real personality" but this same rage could be attributed to harassment against him if he were a white person.

Edit 2018/4/28: Right now the fake news is associatiing Hollywood with the interest of the alleged rape victims even when a prominent rape victim claim to have no connection to Hollywood. Of suspicion, the fake news did not mention about the rampart rapist culture in Hollywood that is exposed to the public six months ago even when it is obviously related to the alleged Bil Cosby raping. There are also obvious evidences that the Hollywood actress gain their position by supporting the rapist culture in Hollwood, but the news now claim that the Hollywood actress are now opposing the raping by Bill Cosby; how suspicious.

Popular misconceptions of memory might also be involved. Contrary to popular belief, vivid memories are not more accuarte than non-vivid memories even when those vivid memories are from a traumatic experience. Memory recall involve active reconstruction of memories and the reconstruction is affected by stereotypes and schema. There are cases where a rape victim identify her rapist with the full confidence of the accuracy of her traumatic memory, but later express guilt when her memory was later revealed to be misleading from further police investigation. Due to the nature of acting, the white rapists in Hollywood could disgust themselves as Bill Cosby to rape women and the imperfection in the disguise could be compensate by inaccuracy of vivid memory.
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Posted 5/8/18 , edited 5/15/18
I will try to connect the Bill Cosby scandal to the broader politics. The 2016 political re-polarization from economic issues to social issues may forced Hollywood, who are affiliated to “Republicans for Hillary”, to ally with feminists which then make the rapist reputation more damaging to their political power. To maintain their new political allies, they make more elaborate fake news content to blame Bill Cosby for all the raping by Hollywood men and avoid the scapegoating of Harvey Weinstein who is a long-time Democrat supporter. The Hollywood rapists might maintain their alliance with alt-left politicians despite their rampart raping by their media power.

The speculation above may not be informative but the wikipedia page (accessed on May 8, 2018) below of Sexual abuse in Hollywood on section of Psychology and behavior provide a strong evidence to doubt the rape accusation toward Bill Cosby since he is not in control of the fake news. This also implies that the rape accusation toward Donald Trump is also fake.


The psychology center Cepsim in Madrid, Spain described in summary the profile of the abuser: "They are men or women with a lot of power who use it with vulnerable people to get what they want. Normally they lack empathy, which is what places us in someone else's pain and makes us not hurt or be selfish." The Department of Psychology of the University of Málaga added that the rapist does not usually assimilate that he is committing a crime, since his mind is usually narcissistic. People with media power usually present themselves with a "charming" personality and enjoy good public relations, so when the abuse is uncovered the laws themselves doubt the victims. The personality of abusers in show business also has atypical behaviors such as quoting actresses and models to castings or sign contracts in unusual places such as hotel rooms or private rooms. After the abuse they resort to blackmail or a direct threat to silence the victim. Criminal law lawyer Alicia Ozores explained to the newspaper La Vanguardia that some abusers tried to take refuge under the argument that "they were addicted to sex", this in order to reduce a sentence and cleanse their image because sex addiction is a recognized disorder. Weinstein and Spacey used the argument in response to the accusations against them. According to the psychological profile of the abuser, many stalkers and rapists dod not need to resort to physical violence, since they used persuasion, deception or pressure to subdue the victim, based on their authoritative relationship. In the case of child abuse itself, the rapist would be opportunistic, taking advantage of the carelessness of the parents and in this case of their desire to venture into the media.

Regarding the victims, their fear is usually related to the disbelief of public opinion and to being judged by it. Usually, the society condemns the abuse but in turn questions the reason why the victim did not speak or denounce before. Brazilian psychologist Flavia Dos Santos told Colombian newspaper El País that victims are usually convinced to speak when they are told that their statement can contribute to cases to happen less and less. The victim usually feels helpless to know that his abusers are people with media power and as a result can enjoy impunity when he has public demand. Many of the later behaviors of the victims, such as guilt or disbalance in interpersonal relationships, were shown in the documentary An Open Secret, where victims narrate that sexual abuse has been assumed as part of the culture in Hollywood and for that reason nobody has worried about eradicating it.


EDIT (2018/5/15): I should elaborate more about the implication of the quoted Wikipedia section. I suspect that the alledged rape victims are manipulated by powerful white men to damage the reputation of feminism. The court did confirmed that powerful men often silence rape victims with shaming, threats, and bribery so this manipulate to get a black scapegoat is very believable. Hollywood is a movie production company so they could get skilled actors who could act out dramatic emotion that seem genuine. Furthermore, American movie actresses face a huge competition from domestic competitors and foreign competitors; they need to please powerful white men by supporting the rapist culture to gain a competitive advantage and some actresses depend solely on protitution to gain their position.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2018/03/portland_protest_leader_micah.html

Pedo antifa leader found guilty for sexually abusing a minor female. Still has another trial for something involving a minor boy. So progressive! I wonder if they will riot to free him :thinking:
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http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2018/03/portland_protest_leader_micah.html

Pedo antifa leader found guilty for sexually abusing a minor female. Still has another trial for something involving a minor boy. So progressive! I wonder if they will riot to free him :thinking:


Ok, first of all, it says he was 20 at the time and he slept with someone who was 17 and someone who was under 18. A pedophile is someone attracted to children. Not someone who is just marginally outside of his teen years attracted to someone 3 years younger then them. The law in this regard are strange in America. I've had a friend who had to go to jail and had probation because he slept with someone a year younger then him because under the law it constitutes sex with a minor. Not that this guy should get off scott free mind you.

Second of all, he was the supposed leader of a portland resistance group. Nowhere does it say that is is antifa (Because antifa doesn't have a unifying presence) it's just a bunch of scattered groups across the country. The poorly written article also says that he was once a prominent member. Whatever that means.

Lastly, can you hyperlink your links? -_-
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Ok, first of all, it says he was 20 at the time and he slept with someone who was 17 and someone who was under 18. A pedophile is someone attracted to children. Not someone who is just marginally outside of his teen years attracted to someone 3 years younger then them. The law in this regard are strange in America. I've had a friend who had to go to jail and had probation because he slept with someone a year younger then him because under the law it constitutes sex with a minor. Not that this guy should get off scott free mind you.

Second of all, he was the supposed leader of a portland resistance group. Nowhere does it say that is is antifa (Because antifa doesn't have a unifying presence) it's just a bunch of scattered groups across the country. The poorly written article also says that he was once a prominent member. Whatever that means.

Lastly, can you hyperlink your links? -_-


"ackshually its ephebophilia not pedophilia. Also I'm friends with a sex offender"
Okay then. Please keep children away from your "friend".

Portland Resistance is an antifa group. That's why there are videos of them, including the child abusing sex offender the article is about, flying antifa flags and beating people with their flag poles. Their own logo uses antifa colors, and if that's not enough there are plenty of pics and videos of them shouting antifa slogans and waving antifa ancom flags.

look familiar?


Now where have I seen that be-

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"because antifa doesn't have a unifying presence"
FBI and DHS disagree. They have similar dress, flags, symbols, buildings used for meetups, websites etc. There's a reason they are classified as a domestic anarchist terrorist organization. And they have child molesters leading them.
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Posted 5/13/18 , edited 5/13/18

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Ok, first of all, it says he was 20 at the time and he slept with someone who was 17 and someone who was under 18. A pedophile is someone attracted to children. Not someone who is just marginally outside of his teen years attracted to someone 3 years younger then them. The law in this regard are strange in America. I've had a friend who had to go to jail and had probation because he slept with someone a year younger then him because under the law it constitutes sex with a minor. Not that this guy should get off scott free mind you.

Second of all, he was the supposed leader of a portland resistance group. Nowhere does it say that is is antifa (Because antifa doesn't have a unifying presence) it's just a bunch of scattered groups across the country. The poorly written article also says that he was once a prominent member. Whatever that means.

Lastly, can you hyperlink your links? -_-


"ackshually its ephebophilia not pedophilia. Also I'm friends with a sex offender"
Okay then. Please keep children away from your "friend".



And let me guess, you've only dated people exactly your age? Because by your logic if you've ever dated someone a year younger then you then your now a 'sex offender'. Holy shit folks watch out. A teenager screwing a teenager! Better lock him up with all that offensive pedophile angst hes got beaming out of his legs.


Portland Resistance is an antifa group. That's why there are videos of them, including the child abusing sex offender the article is about, flying antifa flags and beating people with their flag poles. Their own logo uses antifa colors, and if that's not enough there are plenty of pics and videos of them shouting antifa slogans and waving antifa ancom flags.


Don't be daft. Your words were leader of Antifa, not leader of a portland group of antifa. Which I'm almost positive is one of many.



"because antifa doesn't have a unifying presence"
FBI and DHS disagree. They have similar dress, flags, symbols, buildings used for meetups, websites etc. There's a reason they are classified as a domestic anarchist terrorist organization. And they have child molesters leading them.


Yikes. What's with the Crunchyroll baiters and generalizing every little thing you see? Is it really that hard to understand that one documented case in an isolated area does not constitute or reaffirm your biases? So, because Trump secretly talks about sexually assaulting women behind closed doors am I correct in saying that all Republican's do the same? I mean It must be if I were to wake up every day and do what you do.

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Antifa is grassroots city lead movements. They use the same symbols and tactics everywhere but they are hardly organized under some singular leadership at the moment.

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Because by your logic if you've ever dated someone a year younger then you then your now a 'sex offender'.

No. By my logic if you get convicted for sodomizing a child you're a child molester.


Don't be daft. Your words were leader of Antifa, not leader of a portland group of antifa.

Semantics


Antifa is grassroots city lead movements. They use the same symbols and tactics everywhere but they are hardly organized under some singular leadership at the moment.

Portland Resistance is an antifa organization. The child molester was its leader. Therefore he was an "antifa leader". Why would you argue so hard in favor of a child molester that leads what the fbi identifies as a domestic terror group?
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Posted 5/15/18 , edited 5/15/18

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No. By my logic if you get convicted for sodomizing a child you're a child molester.


"convicted of sodomizing a child"

There's the key phrase. So a teenager has sex with a teenager, just marginally younger then them. The law is set up in a completely idiotic manner that is ripe for parents to use it for abuse. They do. And by law we now have teenagers getting punished for being teenagers. Do you see the idiocy?

Teenagers screwing teenagers does not constitute sodomizing a child. Biologically and psychologically a law does not constitute a change in behavior at the subconscious level. If an adult does this that's one thing but two teenagers? Really? You're being ridiculous.


Semantics


Specifics. Context. Layers. All things that take minimal brain power.


Portland Resistance is an antifa organization. The child molester was its leader. Therefore he was an "antifa leader". Why would you argue so hard in favor of a child molester that leads what the fbi identifies as a domestic terror group?


Lol, we are running in circles amigo. Apparently by fighting unfair characterizations I am now in favor of something? Here come the logical fallacies. I should of expected as much though.

Antifa are city lead movements that aren't connected in anything but banner. They don't have a headquarters were the concoct evil plans. You're lying to other people and yourself to fit your contrived world view. And no it isn't fooling anyone.
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Posted 5/15/18 , edited 5/15/18

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If you feel this is important enough and can relate to these women coming out, what's your story? Are you a minor? Because if you are over 30 and have no freaking clue what the touch of a man is like you can shove it. There are women out there with traumatizing stories and they don't need your VERY limited opinions.

Without social media these topics would only be featured on morning talk shows and I don't think your snobby ass watches those shows.


I can tell the real life story of an abused mother in a family where the abusive father is a literal psychopath. The abused mother is not familiar with social media so I will tell her story. Her identity is kept vague for privacy purpose. As a child, she was taught to be ignorant and to follow powerful men in authority without questioning. Her learned ignorance and blind obedience is like the magical girls in Magica Madoka. Her husband marry her thinking that she is "perfect", but he later regret the marriage because he no longer consider her to be "perfect". The husband begins to abuses her and project his negative characters onto her. Due to the negate of the husband, she has to raise four children by herself. Her rigidity and inexperience cause her children to fall into temptation of human entertainment.

Her husband keep on changing Chinese Canadian church in Toronto until he found one that could be manipulated. Rick Chan select the TCCC church becuase the church depend too much on sin and hypocrisy instead of the true God. The pastors in that church on Gibson center use her ignorance and naiveness to manipulate her. The manipulation use fake Chinese traditions and fake biblical preaching to make her keep silent of the oppression. The TCCC church later reverse their support toward Ricky Chan after an autistic child lecture the pastors two times.

Capitalist influcence is suspected to be a major cause behind this spousal abuse since it is about a Hong Kong family who immigrant to Canada after Hong Kong is handed over to the Communists although some of their relatives later moves between Hong Kong and Canada. The abusive father and the corrupt pastors of TCCC church are also strong supporters of Capitalism as well.
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