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Posted 11/20/17

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unless they lower the standards
Lowering the PT standards still wouldn't make basic training easier. On the subject of APFT, the army is possibly going to get rid of push-ups and sit-ups and replace them with 5 other pt tests called the army combat readiness test or something.

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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:
unless they lower the standards
Lowering the PT standards still wouldn't make basic training easier. On the subject of APFT, the army is possibly going to get rid of push-ups and sit-ups and replace them with 5 other pt tests called the army combat readiness test or something.

This isn't going to be implemented any sooner than 2020 if they do decide to make the changes.
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You can in Canada. I don't know about US or Arizona. Phoenix PD is really desperate for new hires.


very desperate!!!! it's the city with the highest crime rate in the Maricopa County.. so let see how people can only do 11 push ups per minute handle aggressive criminals or not..
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I'm enlisting once I turn 17 and I have a mild form of Autism known as Asperger's syndrome.
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That's because trans people go into the military pre-op so then the military has to pay for their transition.
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There's also more things I can go on but there isn't a point to that since this is Crunchryroll and not a political forum.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


CKD-Anime wrote:


AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:
unless they lower the standards
Lowering the PT standards still wouldn't make basic training easier. On the subject of APFT, the army is possibly going to get rid of push-ups and sit-ups and replace them with 5 other pt tests called the army combat readiness test or something.

This isn't going to be implemented any sooner than 2020 if they do decide to make the changes.
which is why I said possibly

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Posted 11/22/17 , edited 11/27/17

CKD-Anime wrote:

which is why I said possibly

Sorry. I skim the forums. I thought you were responding to him in a way that suggests that you think they are suddenly making the change to help recruit more people into the army.
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very desperate!!!! it's the city with the highest crime rate in the Maricopa County.. so let see how people can only do 11 push ups per minute handle aggressive criminals or not..


they will arm them with a gun so upper body strength is not that important to them.. they need more fresh (or is it dead) meat on the streets asap
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I joined the Marines at 17 back in 2006. Served as a 03-11 then got trained as a 03-13 thats infantry rifleman and Lav Crewman. Sorry this a bad idea. It comes down to masses. Combat readiness and effectiveness of a Unit. That all rely on budget. Do you want to spend more tax payer dollars on high risk people. People with a tendency to already hurt themselves and have addictions. No. Do you want to as a leader have to worry about recruit X or Private X is suicidal? Do you want to worry about the brother next to you jumping on a grenade or starting a firefight just because he has a chemical imbalance in his head then you have to risk your life just to bring him home. I wouldnt . At boot camp alone we had 3 suicide attempts in my platoon of 120 that graduated 49. As for the transgender thing. Also a money and Combat Readiness issue.

Me personally id have no problem serving with Someone Transgender. I would however have a problem if they expected the Military to foot the bill and if they where bringing my unit down with combat or unit readiness. Going to counseling and undergoing operations constantly being ill. We call that malingering. If they where already through all that fine then sign them up. Hell whats the problem then right. It costs nothing extra and they have found themselves. They are the sex they chose and id treat them as such. This is a split argument among members of the military tho. Also sexual harassment among the military is a touchy subject. You have extreme cases of rape and abuse of power. Then on flip side a lot that are false for political and rank advancement. So do you allow people with mental illness in and add fuel to the fire or keep standards stringent.

The services truly brought alot of this on themselves by kicking out multiple tour Vets. After the surge and the main invasion ended the Military went on a crusade kicking out members over petty reasons. As one person said Tattoos. I know guys who did four tours who when where discharged was told it was because of failing to meet uniform or grooming standards. Reason being due to tattoos on the neck or sleeves. How stupid does that sound when you have a guy thats been to war and survived and could pass on knowledge as a vet. That could teach information to save lives. The only way i can see this being a good thing is if it is implemented for B billet positions and some non deploy-able. If you get a kid with adhd turning a wrench on a Humvee thats cool with me. Have a person who used to cut himself setting up com lines fine with me. Service can give purpose and teach life skills. I dont however need them next to me in a firefight tho unless they settled all there demons and are ready to do or die. Just my thoughts as someone whose served.
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We can have mentally I'll but no transgendered, what?
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We can have mentally I'll but no transgendered, what?


you can still join. If you are willing to fight and die for your country i don't see why someone would care what gender you are..

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/judge-blocks-trump-transgender-military-ban/index.html
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/11/15/army-leaders-stand-behind-soldiers-transgender-surgery.html

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I'm actually really trying hard to think of a worse idea for the military. It's not as though the concern is that we are going to have some kind of incident because of it, but we already have a huge issue with people in the armed forces coming back with mental illnesses as it is in the first place. I really do think I know more former military with undiagnosed mental problems than people with opioid dependence issues.
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Posted 11/28/17 , edited 11/28/17

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I'm enlisting once I turn 17


I wouldn't join the military with how the Government treats soldiers when they get back home, throwing them aside and whatnot. Just my opinion.
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zxchzch wrote:

I'm enlisting once I turn 17


I wouldn't join the military with how the Government treats soldiers when they get back home, throwing them aside and whatnot. Just my opinion.


I second this.
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Posted 11/28/17 , edited 11/28/17

MonoDreams wrote:


zxchzch wrote:

I'm enlisting once I turn 17


I wouldn't join the military with how the Government treats soldiers when they get back home, throwing them aside and whatnot. Just my opinion.


The problems with VA didn't get any better after all that exposure ?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/12/readers-sound-off-problems-va-transparency-efficiency/759716001/


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