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Posted 11/19/17 , edited 11/19/17
Basically it allows providers to start making money from sources other then the consumers. Say Bing pays charter a bunch of money to throttle everything but their search engine.

Things like this never have a line drawn in the sand. We all lose in the end. Great work Ajit Pai.
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Posted 11/22/17
Some interesting reads I found today on the subject matter:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/washingtonbytes/2017/07/12/bringing-economics-back-into-the-net-neutrality-debate/#5c49d7469da1
A Debate between economists on the subject.

https://itif.org/publications/2017/06/02/broadband-myth-series-part-1-what-financial-data-shows-about-impact-title-ii
A neutral look into the Impact of Title II on ISP Investments.
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Posted 11/22/17

bernardwheelerjr wrote:

Ajit Pai the current head of the fcc is a former verizon lobiest so: yes the fcc is going to kill net nutrality.

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Posted 11/22/17
Do anyone have issues when streaming videos from Crunchyroll? When streaming video, the LTE allows me to stream without problems but when I switch to my T-Online hotspot it takes 15 minutes loading to watch 2 minutes of anime. Other streaming works well and I'm a premium member on CR.
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Posted 11/22/17

Harry_Caine wrote:

Do anyone have issues when streaming videos from Crunchyroll? When streaming video, the LTE allows me to stream without problems but when I switch to my T-Online hotspot it takes 15 minutes loading to watch 2 minutes of anime. Other streaming works well and I'm a premium member on CR.

Tethering and hotspot connections are typically throttled.
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Posted 11/22/17
So yeah, Net Neutrality repeal will cause some of us to have to drop this site.

I don't have any of the big companies as my provider (mine is a local company in business for 20 years) so I don't know how this will affect me personally. But Pai is a sonovabitch who sucks Verizon's dick basically.

So, hopefully CR can stay around in this new era, yeah? I'll take a price hike, as long as its within my means.


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Posted 11/22/17
https://blog.ellation.com/continuing-support-of-netneutrality-f55d795ba252

The biggest Irony is Ellation the parent company of Crunchyroll CEO Kun Gao did not do his research as Ellation is majorly owned by AT&T one of the big three companies that have been lobbying for the FCC to kill Net Neutrality
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Posted 11/22/17 , edited 11/22/17
Yeah it's gonna be repealed and there's pretty much nothing that can be done about it. Ajit Pai already basically said he doesn't really care about the public's general opinion on the matter.

So not only will it be more expensive for consumers who now need to buy the internet in packages of what they want (not including the fees internet providers will probably charge other companies to be included in those packages that will be handed down to consumers as well) but the internet will also become very limited in general so you're getting less.

This wouldn't actually be the worst thing ever but there just isn't enough competition in the US to justify this. Many areas still only have one or two internet providers which basically means they're gonna do whatever the hell they want to. This also makes it quite difficult for small business with websites as this could just be another fee for them to pay to have their websites included. Web development in general might take a hit from this.

Also this can massively restrict freedom on the internet even more so if the provider might have an affiliation with a company or political party that could restrict access to websites that don't benefit them. Do I think it's gonna get quite this bad? Not entirely. Overall I can say this isn't good for the general public though.
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Posted 11/22/17
Well, I guess it's time to find a way to crush them as destructive monopolies somehow...
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Posted 11/22/17
there's apparently a massive scheme involving fake public comments through stolen identities.
perhaps not surprisingly, FCC is refusing to help New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) wih the investigation.
it's of course possible - if not likely - that FCC itself was either responsible for it or played a part.



New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) is investigating what he calls a massive scheme to corrupt the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) with fake public comments on net neutrality.

In an open letter to Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai, Schneiderman said the agency hasn't provided him with information "critical" to an investigation his office is conducting.

Schneiderman said in a tweet his office has been investigating a "massive scheme" over the last six months to "corrupt the FCC's comment process on net neutrality by impersonating 100,000s of real Americans."

In the letter, Schneiderman wrote that the process the FCC has "employed to consider potentially sweeping alterations to current net neutrality rules has been corrupted by the fraudulent use of Americans’ identities — and the FCC has been unwilling to assist my office in our efforts to investigate this unlawful activity.[.b]"

source: the Hill
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Posted 11/23/17 , edited 11/28/17
It's just the internet going crazy over a few Net Neutrality rules that have only been in place since 2015, and they're all acting like the internet was horrible before then.
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Posted 11/23/17

Sawilagar wrote:

It's just the internet going crazy over a few Net Neutrality rules that have only been in place since 2015, and they're all acting like the internet was horrible before then.


Net neutrality is one of the founding principles of the internet. It has been there since the start, and cable companies have been trying to get rid of it to make the internet into something similar to television with package deal which you can see in things like cellular plans. The internet wasn't horrible, but the rule of net neutrality had much less protection from outright removal. Pai and Verizon are lying scumbags.
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Posted 11/23/17 , edited 11/23/17
The people in power want to control the internet so that they can control your perceptions of reality just like with TV. The internet has become a powerful way of connecting and sharing knowledge. Much of the knowledge being shared is causing humanity to awaken to their true power and the controllers of the world are scared of this which is why they want to limit our freedom on the internet.
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Posted 11/23/17
If it has not been posted already, here is an easy way for US citizens to contact their congressmen and women to tell them about their thoughts on ending net neutrality.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/
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