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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17
Remind me but has goku acted like he does in Super in previous season? sure hes dumb and all but after watching 30 episodes of super. hes not the same goku as i once knew. so what do we know about him? he hasent kissed hes wife, was stunned at hes son having a baby, while stuffing hes face with food, lost at what goku was saying, always itching for a fight to get stronger but has no real reason to as hes son and friends are now left in the dust, and goku is the main, anyways, after finding out what beerus and whis are planning, he bugs whis who just wants to eat hes food, later asking and bugging beerus on who he hired, and after that punching some alien... wow not cool
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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17
gohan was saying to hes father*
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I can't say for sure but i think the differences stem from not having someone stronger than him for some time. Whis and Beerus stepping in and showing him a whole new realm of power and fighters stimulate his thirst for battle (which had been neglected after fighting Majin buu). He has a new goal and stronger fighters to chase after again. There is also an awkward focus in super on Goku's family life which was never great and we hadn't seen a whole lot of in Z.

Initially I had to get past who i thought Goku was from the english dub version of Z, which wasn't especially accurate portraying his personality. He's not so much of a hero as a battle hungry martial artist/saiyan who happens to be on the right side of a lot of conflicts.
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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17

WankFerret wrote:

I can't say for sure but i think the differences stem from not having someone stronger than him for some time. Whis and Beerus stepping in and showing him a whole new realm of power and fighters stimulate his thirst for battle (which had been neglected after fighting Majin buu). He has a new goal and stronger fighters to chase after again. There is also an awkward focus in super on Goku's family life which was never great and we hadn't seen a whole lot of in Z.

Initially I had to get past who i thought Goku was from the english dub version of Z, which wasn't especially accurate portraying his personality. He's not so much of a hero as a battle hungry martial artist/saiyan who happens to be on the right side of a lot of conflicts.


also i would like to say its awkward training with the devil basically, who could of killed goku in hes sleep and hes planet, which beerus could anytime, why he only spared earth cause of food is insane

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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/25/17
Goku isn't different. Funimation just is doing a more direct translation of Super than they had done with Dragon Ball Z, and to a lesser extent Dragon Ball.

I've been watching Dragon Ball and DBZ English dubs with the original subtitles on recently, and it's been kind of eye opening to see just how much Funimation changed when they adapted it.
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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17
There's always that theory going around about his head injury reversing and him becoming more "Saiyan" personality wise/
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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17

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There's always that theory going around about his head injury reversing and him becoming more "Saiyan" personality wise/

no, that just made him good

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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17
As other's have said, Super is just a much more truer representation of Goku than was shown in any of the previous English translations of the series. The original dubs of Dragonball and then Dragonball Z, depicted Goku as doing the right thing because it was what was right when that wasn't really how it was usually portrayed in the original manga or that much in the Japanese anime. The others were also correct in that Goku after the fight with Kid Buu until Lord Beerus came around didn't have any other challenges to surpass. I mean I don't think that he and Vegeta even sparred between those two events. Vegeta was also not as driven to surpass Goku; the Saiyan Prince's passion was also reignited after the appearance of Lord Beerus and Whis.

Goku has never had any romantic outbursts in the whole series. I would wager that Goku's reaction to the murder of any of his friends would not be that different than it would be to that of his family. If anything Goku likely just feels a deeper obligation to protect his family than the others, just because he knows they are his family not because of any kind of familial love. I am sure that Chichi picked up on this flaw of Goku's early on in their marriage, and learned to live with it. It also explains a lot of her frustration and anger when Goku gets so passionate about fighting rather than his family's well being at times.

Also, Goku's head injury didn't make him good; it just made him a docile toddler rather than a vicious and violent one. Goku really hasn't ever been good; he's just been honorably because that is how Grandpa Gohan taught him to be. Had Goku been found and raised by someone who was evil and without honor, then Goku would have grown to be pretty much the same as any other Saiyan just with less battlelust while young.

Also, the theory is that after 40+ years Goku's brain has recovered to the point where his normal Saiyan personality traits are becoming stronger, but they are not strong enough to overcome his learned habits and behaviors.
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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/26/17
He seems about the same. Maybe getting older and taking things for granted. The series is also "matured" -- it's a major force in Japanese culture and it knows it.

If there's a difference it's in the plotline and world setting. In Dragonball, he had no real goal besides getting stronger and sometimes incidentally saving the world, but everything was more dangerous and mysterious. In DBZ he was forced into a train-to-save-the-world and avenge his friends cycle. Dragonball the original series manga was still ongoing, and Akira Toriyama still had to work a bit.

After what I think is 30-something in-world years, he's saved Earth multiple times, himself and everyone he knows has been killed and revived at least once, to the point Piccolo dies as a gag and he's right back the next scene. He's just kind of thrill seeking between saving the world as a part time job.

Super compared to the earlier series is pretty much ... "We all know what we're here for, there isn't going to be anything original but stay for the nostalgia, the overpowered fighting and some laughs."
Posted 11/26/17 , edited 11/26/17
Brain time tumor just keeps growing
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