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Posted 11/26/17 , edited 11/26/17
I was thinking of getting Dark Souls III after getting Bloodborne's platinum but didn't want to pay too much for the game. I noticed the price dropped to $20 recently but i saw this at the local wal-mart when I stopped by to pick up another game

It's the last copy for both version. I didn't know which one to get at first





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Posted 11/26/17 , edited 11/27/17
I think the second one is season pass in addition. Fire Fades is what you want.
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Posted 11/26/17 , edited 11/27/17
Yeah, fire fades has both DLC. That's the only diff. DLC1 (Ashes) is the most ok, DLC2 (Ringed City) has fun bosses but super annoying trash mobs.
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Posted 11/27/17 , edited 11/27/17
Thanks guys. I got the fire fades edition. I can't see the back so i wasn't sure + i couldn't get any reception in the store so i can't look up the info on my phone

I have to look up "beginner guide" for this game. I was hoping for something similar to this

The Beginner's Guide to Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxi_w6jwRg
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Posted 11/27/17 , edited 11/27/17
Fortunately, Dark Souls explains itself slightly better than Bloodborne. People say the easiest start is Knight/Fire Gem or Pyromancer/Life Ring.

Dark Souls is more dodge-roll than Bloodborne, but you do the same Parry-Counterattack pattern if you have a shield that parries against humanoid enemies.
Also, you have to fight a brick wall before the game starts, instead of after fighting dozens of depraved English gentlemen first, and dodging is slower than Bloodborne.
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Posted 11/27/17 , edited 11/28/17

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Thanks guys. I got the fire fades edition. I can't see the back so i wasn't sure + i couldn't get any reception in the store so i can't look up the info on my phone

I have to look up "beginner guide" for this game. I was hoping for something similar to this

The Beginner's Guide to Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxi_w6jwRg



The same guy (VaatiVidya) from the bloodborne's guide above is in this video. He did a comprehensive guide for Dark Souls 3 with another youtuber so the video was not uploaded on his own channel.

Dark Souls 3 - A Comprehensive Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqiNDwr0bM4
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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:
The same guy (VaatiVidya) from the bloodborne's guide above is in this video. He did a comprehensive guide for Dark Souls 3 with another youtuber so the video was not uploaded on his own channel.

Dark Souls 3 - A Comprehensive Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqiNDwr0bM4


Thanks! I thought Vaati would a big guy from his voice

:?? you don't gain blood back for being aggressive like in bloodborne ? I guess soul games are more about defensive


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:?? you don't gain blood back for being aggressive like in bloodborne ? I guess soul games are more about defensive



Yes and no. Souls games definitely do give you more straight up defensive options including great shields that have 100% block rates on any type of attack, heavy armour and various defensive and healing magics. However, and this is especially true in DS3 with it's more aggressive and numerous enemies, the best plan often really ends up being carefully considered aggression. You don't have the immediate incentive of the regain system to get life back in Souls like you do in BB but many enemies (even some otherwise tough bosses) can be stunlocked or otherwise taken care of very quickly by playing with a more aggressive style. Heck, the way offensive stat effects like the powerful Bleed and Frostbite work in DS3 means you're actively rewarded for laying it on as thick as you can as fast as you can. Even though Souls appears to favour defensive play I'd wager that most experienced players actually play shieldless or with light builds using a more aggressive play style.

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Yes and no. Souls games definitely do give you more straight up defensive options including great shields that have 100% block rates on any type of attack, heavy armour and various defensive and healing magics. However, and this is especially true in DS3 with it's more aggressive and numerous enemies, the best plan often really ends up being carefully considered aggression. You don't have the immediate incentive of the regain system to get life back in Souls like you do in BB but many enemies (even some otherwise tough bosses) can be stunlocked or otherwise taken care of very quickly by playing with a more aggressive style. Heck, the way offensive stat effects like the powerful Bleed and Frostbite work in DS3 means you're actively rewarded for laying it on as thick as you can as fast as you can. Even though Souls appears to favour defensive play I'd wager that most experienced players actually play shieldless or with light builds using a more aggressive play style.




I see a character who can use dual blades :/ is it a good class to start with ?
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StriderShinryu wrote:

Yes and no. Souls games definitely do give you more straight up defensive options including great shields that have 100% block rates on any type of attack, heavy armour and various defensive and healing magics. However, and this is especially true in DS3 with it's more aggressive and numerous enemies, the best plan often really ends up being carefully considered aggression. You don't have the immediate incentive of the regain system to get life back in Souls like you do in BB but many enemies (even some otherwise tough bosses) can be stunlocked or otherwise taken care of very quickly by playing with a more aggressive style. Heck, the way offensive stat effects like the powerful Bleed and Frostbite work in DS3 means you're actively rewarded for laying it on as thick as you can as fast as you can. Even though Souls appears to favour defensive play I'd wager that most experienced players actually play shieldless or with light builds using a more aggressive play style.




I see a character who can use dual blades :/ is it a good class to start with ?


Coming from Bloodborne, I would say it's actually a pretty good starter. Eventually you'll probably pick up the Sellsword Twinblades, which are widely regarded as some of the best weapons in the game and they're basically just better versions of that starter set. Starting there will keep you in a style you're maybe already familiar with while getting you used to the move set of the Sellswords if you choose to go in that direction.

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dulun18 wrote:
I see a character who can use dual blades :/ is it a good class to start with ?


Coming from Bloodborne, I would say it's actually a pretty good starter. Eventually you'll probably pick up the Sellsword Twinblades, which are widely regarded as some of the best weapons in the game and they're basically just better versions of that starter set. Starting there will keep you in a style you're maybe already familiar with while getting you used to the move set of the Sellswords if you choose to go in that direction.



My bad. There's no character with dual blades to start with. I'll start with deprived. level 1 and all 10 for stats, it's a pretty balance character imo.
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StriderShinryu wrote:


dulun18 wrote:
I see a character who can use dual blades :/ is it a good class to start with ?


Coming from Bloodborne, I would say it's actually a pretty good starter. Eventually you'll probably pick up the Sellsword Twinblades, which are widely regarded as some of the best weapons in the game and they're basically just better versions of that starter set. Starting there will keep you in a style you're maybe already familiar with while getting you used to the move set of the Sellswords if you choose to go in that direction.



My bad. There's no character with dual blades to start with. I'll start with deprived. level 1 and all 10 for stats, it's a pretty balance character imo.


Mercenary's weapon, when used two hands, is two blades. Deprived is "hard mode", so good luck.

Also, I believe you can hold a one handed weapon in each hand and hse them like that.
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Also, I believe you can hold a one handed weapon in each hand and hse them like that.



You can but it sucks. L1 is always guard regardless of what you have equipped, as far as I've seen. Really frustrating if you want dual whips.
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Mercenary's weapon, when used two hands, is two blades. Deprived is "hard mode", so good luck.

Also, I believe you can hold a one handed weapon in each hand and hse them like that.



so it has to be the mercenary to use dual swords? or any character can dual wield in this game?

Onikiri and Ubadachi (dual katanas) Moveset (Dark Souls 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ECVQsKU3N0
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Posted 11/29/17 , edited 11/30/17

dulun18 wrote:


gornotck wrote:



Mercenary's weapon, when used two hands, is two blades. Deprived is "hard mode", so good luck.

Also, I believe you can hold a one handed weapon in each hand and hse them like that.



so it has to be the mercenary to use dual swords? or any character can dual wield in this game?

Onikiri and Ubadachi (dual katanas) Moveset (Dark Souls 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ECVQsKU3N0


Yeah, any character can dual wield but it's done a little differently in DS3. There are basically paired sets of weapons that you can either use in "one weapon" mode or in "dual wield" mode. There are quite a variety of them so it's not all bad but you don't get access to many of them until later in the game (including some really cool ones that are DLC only). You can technically dual wield any two weapons if you want but there really isn't much incentive to doing so unless there's a very specific build you happen to be using. This is a pretty major downgrade from DS2 where you could pair any weapons you wanted for dual wielding and would actually receive special bonuses if you were good enough with them (aka if your stats were high enough).

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