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Do you ever get burned out on politics?
Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
I do , it just seems like the same bullshit over and over.
Liberals, conservatives , flaming back and forth ad nauseum.

Honestly Ill admit for me Ive been rather disillusioned by the left and right back and forth. The left has been disappointing and weak to say the least in this country, and the right similarly seeming more obnoxious than ever before. Why are there only two parties? Why arent there better Republican alternatives to Trump. Oh well im sick of it all. Wby? Does it ever grow thin on you, dont you wish you had more choices? Please share your thoughts and explain below.
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
Yes, and that's why exactly why I go out of my way to stay out of as many political AND religious discussions as I can since it tends to result in heated arguments that I can't be bothered to put up with. I particularly prefer to stay out of topics such as these in the third dimension.
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
politics is a part of life, there's nothing wrong with moderation or at least knowing what the government and world is up to, but to constantly be obsessed with it, it's not healthy. there's probably some disorder name for such a thing, or it causes angry people or something. I typically read/watch the news once a day and that's about it for me. the information I can take in, basically about 30 mins of my time, keeps me informed of what's going on in the world and local. and dwelling on what is read isn't healthy either, don't expect to learn something and then stress about it, never stress too much about things out of your control, unfortunately (unless we are right in the middle of it) there's nothing we can really do about it. sure a voice, but to focus on nothing but the bad of any situation leads to an unhealthy life, not to mention you might miss something important or such things.
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
No I've never cared about politics more than I do now. Trump is the best Politician I've ever seen and he isn't even a politician, hes a businessman! The last 8 years burnt me out as the party I grew up supporting and the President I voted for turned out to be cancer.

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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
I live in a different country so the flavours are different.

on the far left we have the New Democratic Party -- which you americans would consider the 'looney left' though at one time they were the 'loyal opposition' (the second most influential party) and appeared to have a chance at forming the Government. (colour: Orange)

Our Centrist Party is The Liberal Party of Canada -- they are probably left of the Democrats but they have spent more time in power than any other party in our history. All most twice as often as any other party. They REALLY have to screw up to lose an election. Although not that long ago they lost so badly they weren't even the opposition and just had third party status. They are also known as the "Grits". Justin Trudeau appears to have revived them. (colour: Red)

Our Rightest party is the Conservatives.They have been around as long as the Liberals (since Confederation). They are nicknamed the "Tories" Although they used to be known for a long time as the Progressive Conservatives after they swallowed the Progressive Party several decades ago. About ten years ago they got taken over by an ultra right wing movement and their current leader is a Pence-like religious neanderthal. A lot of "Red Tories" have abandoned the party in the past few years as the new leadership has gone for social conservatism vs. fiscal, and been accused of bigoted and even fascist policies. (colour: Blue)

Then we have the Greens -- they have two seats in parliament. (I think, they might have more but I'm sure it's less than 5)

The left isn't disappearing here. But the right are increasingly turning nasty. right-wingers on facebook and the like call Trudeau a traitor and like to denigrate his double degrees and long parliamentary experience by referring to his one time job as a drama teacher. I've also seen them give the turtle on the fence post allegory.

Despite that he remains reasonably popular with the population at large. although Vets like myself are bitter about broken election promises and the likelyhood that he's going to get our brothers still in service killed through 'Peace Keeping' missions in order to get a seat on the UN Security council.

Our military is chronically under funded, under equipped and undermanned. but we have well trained and proud soldiers who can make do to the point of having a stellar rep with our allies and enemies. Case in point 3 of the last five sniper kill range records were set by Canadians and the most recent one SHATTERED the previous record, reaching out to 'touch' someone 3.5 kilometers away. But there is real fear that a UN mission will be a waste of lives on Image. rather than something worth dying for.

Hmmm... I find politics tiring too. especially since our right increasingly sounds like Trump supporters.
Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17

niotabunny wrote:

politics is a part of life, there's nothing wrong with moderation or at least knowing what the government and world is up to, but to constantly be obsessed with it, it's not healthy. there's probably some disorder name for such a thing, or it causes angry people or something. I typically read/watch the news once a day and that's about it for me. the information I can take in, basically about 30 mins of my time, keeps me informed of what's going on in the world and local. and dwelling on what is read isn't healthy either, don't expect to learn something and then stress about it, never stress too much about things out of your control, unfortunately (unless we are right in the middle of it) there's nothing we can really do about it. sure a voice, but to focus on nothing but the bad of any situation leads to an unhealthy life, not to mention you might miss something important or such things.

I know but it can and does get old and grating at times. No one is saying being informed is a bad thing, but a lot of it is just too much bullshit . the left and the right are more similar than not, esp in the states. Sometimes it feels like the game is rigged and votes dont matter, you know? Its all a matter of perspective.

I guess a TLDR is if what we were fed was less bullshit and more facts id be happier...
Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17

Elektrolysis wrote:

Yes, and that's why exactly why I go out of my way to stay out of as many political AND religious discussions as I can since it tends to result in heated arguments that I can't be bothered to put up with. I particularly prefer to stay out of topics such as these in the third dimension.


Im not disagreeing with you in fact i agree totally ..
Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17

papagolfwhiskey wrote:

I live in a different country so the flavours are different.

on the far left we have the New Democratic Party -- which you americans would consider the 'looney left' though at one time they were the 'loyal opposition' (the second most influential party) and appeared to have a chance at forming the Government. (colour: Orange)

Our Centrist Party is The Liberal Party of Canada -- they are probably left of the Democrats but they have spent more time in power than any other party in our history. All most twice as often as any other party. They REALLY have to screw up to lose an election. Although not that long ago they lost so badly they weren't even the opposition and just had third party status. They are also known as the "Grits". Justin Trudeau appears to have revived them. (colour: Red)

Our Rightest party is the Conservatives.They have been around as long as the Liberals (since Confederation). They are nicknamed the "Tories" Although they used to be known for a long time as the Progressive Conservatives after they swallowed the Progressive Party several decades ago. About ten years ago they got taken over by an ultra right wing movement and their current leader is a Pence-like religious neanderthal. A lot of "Red Tories" have abandoned the party in the past few years as the new leadership has gone for social conservatism vs. fiscal, and been accused of bigoted and even fascist policies. (colour: Blue)

Then we have the Greens -- they have two seats in parliament. (I think, they might have more but I'm sure it's less than 5)

The left isn't disappearing here. But the right are increasingly turning nasty. right-wingers on facebook and the like call Trudeau a traitor and like to denigrate his double degrees and long parliamentary experience by referring to his one time job as a drama teacher. I've also seen them give the turtle on the fence post allegory.

Despite that he remains reasonably popular with the population at large. although Vets like myself are bitter about broken election promises and the likelyhood that he's going to get our brothers still in service killed through 'Peace Keeping' missions in order to get a seat on the UN Security council.

Our military is chronically under funded, under equipped and undermanned. but we have well trained and proud soldiers who can make do to the point of having a stellar rep with our allies and enemies. Case in point 3 of the last five sniper kill range records were set by Canadians and the most recent one SHATTERED the previous record, reaching out to 'touch' someone 3.5 kilometers away. But there is real fear that a UN mission will be a waste of lives on Image. rather than something worth dying for.

Hmmm... I find politics tiring too. especially since our right increasingly sounds like Trump supporters.


I know i wish we had as many choices /options as canada and the uk. I wonder if well ever come around so-to-speak.
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
I think everyone's burned out on politics. Regardless of political orientation you can't deny that Trump essentially can't keep himself out of the news for more than 24 hours. So no one ever gets a break from politics. Everyone is engaged all the time and not in a healthy way. American politics has never been this toxic before in my lifetime. I'm not even American and its sucking us all in.



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I know i wish we had as many choices /options as canada and the uk. I wonder if well ever come around so-to-speak.


I think a parliamentary system would indeed solve many of America's political problems. The more this unfolds the more the American system seems untenable in the modern era.



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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
Oh and most of the American right wingers here on CR don't seem to know how to have a civil conversation. One wouldn't be able to post if he didn't have a supply of memes. Another goes on ignorant Anti-Canadian rants every time one of my countrymen speaks up.
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17

runec wrote:

I think everyone's burned out on politics. Regardless of political orientation you can't deny that Trump essentially can't keep himself out of the news for more than 24 hours. So no one ever gets a break from politics. Everyone is engaged all the time and not in a healthy way. American politics has never been this toxic before in my lifetime. I'm not even American and its sucking us all in.



Madamspica wrote:
I know i wish we had as many choices /options as canada and the uk. I wonder if well ever come around so-to-speak.


I think a parliamentary system would indeed solve many of America's political problems. The more this unfolds the more the American system seems untenable in the modern era.





It'd be nice to talk about Canadian Politics in a thread somewhere. I'm sure it would be interesting and Civil.
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17

papagolfwhiskey wrote:
It'd be nice to talk about Canadian Politics in a thread somewhere. I'm sure it would be interesting and Civil.


The advantage of Canadian politics is being able to trust the country won't burn down if you don't pay attention to it 24/7.

But then an off colour or rude comment in our country is a political death sentence. >.>

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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17

runec wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:
It'd be nice to talk about Canadian Politics in a thread somewhere. I'm sure it would be interesting and Civil.


The advantage of Canadian politics is being able to trust the country won't burn down if you don't pay attention to it 24/7.

But then an off colour or rude comment in our country is a political death sentence. >.>



Not on Facebook it ain't. I swear if I hear 'Libtard' or 'Snowflake' one more time...

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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
Regardless of ones own country and system I think a peice of advice that was given me some years back applies:

"They are all as corrupt as each other, don't think about it too much or you will go mad."

Highly cynical perhaps, but after a few scandels it starts to make sense!
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Posted 12/4/17 , edited 12/4/17
Nah, but then again it's only cause I don't participate or even care.
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