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Posted 12/6/17 , edited 12/7/17

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If only socialists could read charts, line graphs, or trends then they would stop being socialists... Actually growth has been increasing the longer Trump has been president. There was a lul right after he became president-elect then a couple months in it increased and is increasing.

Look at the multi day averages not one day spikes.


Alright, lets do that. Let's look at the daily averages.

0-100k Subs:
335.5 new subs a day

100k-200k Subs:
793.6 new subs a day

200k-300k Subs ( This period is right after the RNC up to a couple weeks after winning the election )
970.8 new subs a day

300k-400k Subs ( This is after the election and the first 5 month's of his presidency )
564.9 new subs a day ( -42% vs candidate Trump )

400k-500k Subs ( June to Sept, bit of a bump over the summer )
775.1 new subs a day ( -21% vs candidate Trump )

500k to Present ( End of Sept to present )
529.3 new subs a day ( -46% vs candidate Trump )

Hmm, nope. The numbers have all been downhill since he won the election. Even the bump in the summer never reclaimed his pre-Presidential sub growth.

Are we done here or is there any more bullshit you'd like to throw at the wall? Never know, something might stick this time.

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Rujikin wrote:

If only socialists could read charts, line graphs, or trends then they would stop being socialists... Actually growth has been increasing the longer Trump has been president. There was a lul right after he became president-elect then a couple months in it increased and is increasing.

Look at the multi day averages not one day spikes.


Ruji, hon, we've gotten along in the past. I'd like to continue that if we can. You know I'm a data driven sort, so let's not pretend I don't exist, okay?

How about quarterly averages, which is what businesses more typically examine themselves by and report to stockholders about? Those don't seem either uniquely good or uniquely bad since the Obama administration. Trump seems to have neither harmed nor helped. He's just kind of, you know, there. But let's be fair: Trump assumed office in late January, so he's had like, what, 3.5 quarters to work with so far? Let's see where he is at the end of 2018. I can call that "his". Also, I have plenty of critiques of the Obama administration to offer in kind. Fair?

Furthermore, I'll give you this: I was more concerned about a Trump administration than I rightly should have been, and far less concerned about a Clinton administration than I should've been. That's not enough to say I'd have supported Trump, but it is enough to say that I can admit supporting Clinton, even secondarily after Sanders backed down in the primary race, was a mistake. Fair?
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Rujikin wrote:
If only socialists could read charts, line graphs, or trends then they would stop being socialists... Actually growth has been increasing the longer Trump has been president. There was a lul right after he became president-elect then a couple months in it increased and is increasing.

Look at the multi day averages not one day spikes.


This may be the best time for me to suggest you seek potential educational courses in Moscow, tavaryš.



Politics are often too polarized to yield a fruitful conversation these days.
It's still hilarious/depressing how some people are so fixed into their perspectives that they cannot see the wood for the trees.
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Posted 12/7/17 , edited 12/7/17

runec wrote:

Are we done here or is there any more bullshit you'd like to throw at the wall? Never know, something might stick this time.

>.>



Oh look randomly placed goal posts to try and skew the facts how cute.

Trump Sworn into office:

Jan 19 340,296:

Growth 50,875

Apr 19 391,171

Growth 69,497

Jul 19 460,668

Growth 53,956

Oct 19 514,624

Oh look an upward growth trend when using fixed goal posts how surprising (its not).

STILL NOT TIRED OF WINNING


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Rujikin wrote:

If only socialists could read charts, line graphs, or trends then they would stop being socialists... Actually growth has been increasing the longer Trump has been president. There was a lul right after he became president-elect then a couple months in it increased and is increasing.

Look at the multi day averages not one day spikes.


Ruji, hon, we've gotten along in the past. I'd like to continue that if we can. You know I'm a data driven sort, so let's not pretend I don't exist, okay?

How about quarterly averages, which is what businesses more typically examine themselves by and report to stockholders about? Those don't seem either uniquely good or uniquely bad since the Obama administration. Trump seems to have neither harmed nor helped. He's just kind of, you know, there. But let's be fair: Trump assumed office in late January, so he's had like, what, 3.5 quarters to work with so far? Let's see where he is at the end of 2018. I can call that "his". Also, I have plenty of critiques of the Obama administration to offer in kind. Fair?

Furthermore, I'll give you this: I was more concerned about a Trump administration than I rightly should have been, and far less concerned about a Clinton administration than I should've been. That's not enough to say I'd have supported Trump, but it is enough to say that I can admit supporting Clinton, even secondarily after Sanders backed down in the primary race, was a mistake. Fair?


Hah out of everyone here you were the one who was on ball. If you haven't already then you should take some micro and macro economic classes they are very helpful in general understanding of business and the economy.

3.5 quarters and a bunch of Rino's pretending to work with him then stabbing him in the back first chance they get. One of them slipped a nasty little business loophole into the tax bill just 2 days ago and were trying to figure out who did it.

There are many people in your same situation. Even if you don't really support Trump you should hope that he is a successful president because is is the Captain steering the United States around and if he crashes every one on board crashes. After Obama's reelection I didn't like him but I hoped he would finish as a good president so he didn't fuck over the nation.

P.S. This whole topic seems to be about nothing more than not letting me get the last word in. I really don't know where its even going at this point. Somehow we are now talking about the_donald's subscriber growth.


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Rujikin wrote:
If only socialists could read charts, line graphs, or trends then they would stop being socialists... Actually growth has been increasing the longer Trump has been president. There was a lul right after he became president-elect then a couple months in it increased and is increasing.

Look at the multi day averages not one day spikes.


This may be the best time for me to suggest you seek potential educational courses in Moscow, tavaryš.



Politics are often too polarized to yield a fruitful conversation these days.
It's still hilarious/depressing how some people are so fixed into their perspectives that they cannot see the wood for the trees.


I cannot drink vodka while balancing potatoes in my mouth so I don't think I would be able to communicate with anyone there.



You mean the wood IN the trees?
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I've been burned out on politics for some time.

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Rujikin wrote:
Oh look randomly placed goal posts to try and skew the facts how cute.

Trump Sworn into office:

Jan 19 340,296:

Growth 50,875

Apr 19 391,171

Growth 69,497

Jul 19 460,668

Growth 53,956

Oct 19 514,624



01-19-2017 (footprint)
Sub growth (Day): 1,245
Total Subs: 338,212

04-19-2017:
Sub Growth (Day): 317
Total Subs: 391,171
Growth (Raw): 52,959
Growth (%): 15.66%

07-19-2017:
Sub Growth (Day): 333
Total Subs: 460,668
Growth (Raw): 69,497
Growth (%): 17.76% (+2.1% over previous quarter)

10-19-2017:
Sub Growth (Day): 398
Total Subs: 514,624
Growth (Raw): 53,956
Growth (%): 11.71% (-6.05% from previous quarter)

Wut?
Your own dates.
No goal posts.
Looking better than Runec's post but still shows a big decline in the last quarter.
Admittedly, impressive that subs didn't take a nosedive when Muller was appointed as the special counsel on the "Russiagate" nonsense.
Still, you're falling on your own sword when it comes to the last quarter.
Let us review come 01-19-2018 and do a year-end total.
So far, projected growth does not seem to show another hike like r/the_donald saw in July but there's time.

And no, for.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/can%27t+see+the+wood+for+the+trees



The "can't see the wood for the trees" was not specific to you but both political sides in the United States.
It's a constant back and forth engagement with people who fail to acknowledge that there is more than just their parties and just the United States involved when it comes to US politics.
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Posted 12/7/17 , edited 12/7/17

Rujikin wrote:

P.S. This whole topic seems to be about nothing more than not letting me get the last word in. I really don't know where its even going at this point. Somehow we are now talking about the_donald's subscriber growth.


Getting the last word seems important to you. Thanks for hijacking the topic.

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Posted 12/7/17 , edited 12/7/17

Rujikin wrote:
Oh look randomly placed goal posts to try and skew the facts how cute.


They aren't random, they're the date stamped milestones. Which are the most readily available fixed data points on the page to work from that give you both a time and a sub total to get an daily average. Without having to do a ton of data mining. Which is what you originally asked for. But okay, if you want to do it quarterly now and move the goal posts to hide the post inauguration decline I showed. Lets add the data from candidate Trump from around the official event, the RNC, to the election, as I did. Which you have conveniently omitted.


For point of reference the previous quarter was: 100,674


Jul 19 2016: 176,906

Growth 76,232


Oct 19 2016: 235,569

Growth 58,663 ( -23% over previous quarter )


Trump Sworn into office:

Jan 19: 338,212:
You accidentally used the figure for Jan 20th and you have your growth figures above rather than below the quarter headers which make for some confusion. You also used a previous figure starting from election day instead of Oct 19th. Which hides the real number for growth under that quarter. Which is actually:

Growth 102,643 ( +43% over previous quarter )

This is the peak as my first post showed. The 3 biggest spikes in sub growth in the subreddit's entire history occur between the summer of the RNC and election day before Trump becomes president. They are:

The first one is the biggest spike Trump ever got and it seems to be, interestingly enough, actually the Pulse Nightclub shooting. When he infamously tweeted that he "Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism". I thought this spike was the RNC but the RNC was actually a few days later. Score one point for Islamaphobia I guess?

The second spike actually corresponds to the DNC and Hillary officially becoming the candidate.

The third spike is election day.


Apr 19: 391,171

Growth 52,959 ( -49% over previous quarter and vs candidate Trump )


Jul 19 460,668

Growth 69,497 ( +24% over previous quarter and -33% vs candidate Trump )

( The summer bump I mentioned )


Oct 19 514,624

Growth 53,956 ( -22% over previous quarter and -47% vs candidate Trump )




Rujikin wrote:Oh look an upward growth trend when using fixed goal posts how surprising (its not).


Oh look using your own methodology still demonstrates the same trends as my original post. How surprising.

( It's not ). -.-



Posted 12/7/17 , edited 12/7/17

BlueOni wrote:

Ruji, hon, we've gotten along in the past. I'd like to continue that if we can. You know I'm a data driven sort, so let's not pretend I don't exist, okay?

How about quarterly averages, which is what businesses more typically examine themselves by and report to stockholders about? Those don't seem either uniquely good or uniquely bad since the Obama administration. Trump seems to have neither harmed nor helped. He's just kind of, you know, there. But let's be fair: Trump assumed office in late January, so he's had like, what, 3.5 quarters to work with so far? Let's see where he is at the end of 2018. I can call that "his". Also, I have plenty of critiques of the Obama administration to offer in kind. Fair?

Furthermore, I'll give you this: I was more concerned about a Trump administration than I rightly should have been, and far less concerned about a Clinton administration than I should've been. That's not enough to say I'd have supported Trump, but it is enough to say that I can admit supporting Clinton, even secondarily after Sanders backed down in the primary race, was a mistake. Fair?


So you would like to redistribute the means of production to the people?
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Posted 12/7/17 , edited 12/7/17

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Getting the last word seems important to you. Thanks for hijacking the topic.


We really ended up proving the point of the topic, didn't we? Sorry for the complete derailment.

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I was burned out the second the election was over.
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runec wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:
Getting the last word seems important to you. Thanks for hijacking the topic.


We really ended up proving the point of the topic, didn't we? Sorry for the complete derailment.



No problem it's been a amusing.

back on topic. I'm rather burned out on American Politics but my home country's still interests me somewhat.


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No problem it's been a amusing.

back on topic. I'm rather burned out on American Politics but my home country's still interests me somewhat.


Paying attention to Canadian politics at the moment is like trying to read a book while your downstairs neighbours are having a rave. >.>
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Rujikin wrote:
Oh look randomly placed goal posts to try and skew the facts how cute.

Trump Sworn into office:

Jan 19 340,296:

Growth 50,875

Apr 19 391,171

Growth 69,497

Jul 19 460,668

Growth 53,956

Oct 19 514,624



01-19-2017 (footprint)
Sub growth (Day): 1,245
Total Subs: 338,212

04-19-2017:
Sub Growth (Day): 317
Total Subs: 391,171
Growth (Raw): 52,959
Growth (%): 15.66%

07-19-2017:
Sub Growth (Day): 333
Total Subs: 460,668
Growth (Raw): 69,497
Growth (%): 17.76% (+2.1% over previous quarter)

10-19-2017:
Sub Growth (Day): 398
Total Subs: 514,624
Growth (Raw): 53,956
Growth (%): 11.71% (-6.05% from previous quarter)

Wut?
Your own dates.
No goal posts.
Looking better than Runec's post but still shows a big decline in the last quarter.
Admittedly, impressive that subs didn't take a nosedive when Muller was appointed as the special counsel on the "Russiagate" nonsense.
Still, you're falling on your own sword when it comes to the last quarter.
Let us review come 01-19-2018 and do a year-end total.
So far, projected growth does not seem to show another hike like r/the_donald saw in July but there's time.

And no, for.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/can%27t+see+the+wood+for+the+trees



The "can't see the wood for the trees" was not specific to you but both political sides in the United States.
It's a constant back and forth engagement with people who fail to acknowledge that there is more than just their parties and just the United States involved when it comes to US politics.


04-19-2017: Growth (Raw): 52,959

07-19-2017: Growth (Raw): 69,497

10-19-2017: Growth (Raw): 53,956

Still increasing and it is still an upward trend since he became president. Every businessman knows that certain quarters have more growth than others, you must not be a businessman but that's ok. Summer was the big increase and even Fall was still an increase since he became president. But at the end of the day we still gained 176,412 new members to the biggest Trump fan club even after he became president!

STILL NOT TIRED OF WINNING


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

P.S. This whole topic seems to be about nothing more than not letting me get the last word in. I really don't know where its even going at this point. Somehow we are now talking about the_donald's subscriber growth.


Getting the last word seems important to you. Thanks for hijacking the topic.



I'm not the one trying to prove that the_donald isn't continuing to grow when it's obvious it is. Really the big question is why do people not even involved in the_donald care this much about what happens there. What do they have to gain besides trying to beat me XD this is Hilarious.

I don't think people are tired of politics yet considering how I have 2 people trying to debate that the_donald isn't continuing to grow since his presidency.


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Rujikin wrote:
Oh look randomly placed goal posts to try and skew the facts how cute.


They aren't random, they're the date stamped milestones. Which are the most readily available fixed data points on the page to work from that give you both a time and a sub total to get an daily average. Without having to do a ton of data mining. Which is what you originally asked for. But okay, if you want to do it quarterly now and move the goal posts to hide the post inauguration decline I showed. Lets add the data from candidate Trump from around the official event, the RNC, to the election, as I did. Which you have conveniently omitted.


For point of reference the previous quarter was: 100,674


Jul 19 2016: 176,906

Growth 76,232


Oct 19 2016: 235,569

Growth 58,663 ( -23% over previous quarter )


Trump Sworn into office:

Jan 19: 338,212:
You accidentally used the figure for Jan 20th and you have your growth figures above rather than below the quarter headers which make for some confusion. You also used a previous figure starting from election day instead of Oct 19th. Which hides the real number for growth under that quarter. Which is actually:

Growth 102,643 ( +43% over previous quarter )

This is the peak as my first post showed. The 3 biggest spikes in sub growth in the subreddit's entire history occur between the summer of the RNC and election day before Trump becomes president. They are:

The first one is the biggest spike Trump ever got and it seems to be, interestingly enough, actually the Pulse Nightclub shooting. When he infamously tweeted that he "Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism". I thought this spike was the RNC but the RNC was actually a few days later. Score one point for Islamaphobia I guess?

The second spike actually corresponds to the DNC and Hillary officially becoming the candidate.

The third spike is election day.


Apr 19: 391,171

Growth 52,959 ( -49% over previous quarter and vs candidate Trump )


Jul 19 460,668

Growth 69,497 ( +24% over previous quarter and -33% vs candidate Trump )

( The summer bump I mentioned )


Oct 19 514,624

Growth 53,956 ( -22% over previous quarter and -47% vs candidate Trump )




Rujikin wrote:Oh look an upward growth trend when using fixed goal posts how surprising (its not).


Oh look using your own methodology still demonstrates the same trends as my original post. How surprising.

( It's not ). -.-





Trump became president Jan 19 everything before that was before he was president. It's pretty obvious we would have a huge surge after his victory over Hillary. What matters is after he became president and after. Already said my stuff above

Haha Trump is so very important to both of you that you are both fighting as hard as you possibly can to try and attack simple facts about his fan club. I think both of you have more than proven that were not tired of politics and that a good part of even your lives revolves around the 45th President of the United States Donald Trump!

I'd like to thank you for your continued support in making everyone's favorite president even more popular. I know you won't understand this but your doing a great job!



No brakes on the winning train!
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Rujikin wrote:
Trump became president Jan 19 everything before that was before he was president. It's pretty obvious we would have a huge surge after his victory over Hillary. What matters is after he became president and after. Already said my stuff above


You can't do a quarterly report and truncate the first quarter to fudge the growth number. I also already noted that his huge surge was Pulse. The following two, while larger than the average spikes, are only around 20% above the norm. So no, there was no "huge surge" with his victory over Hillary. I'm sorry that math doesn't buy into your shitposting.



Rujikin wrote:Haha Trump is so very important to both of you that you are both fighting as hard as you possibly can to try and attack simple facts about his fan club. I think both of you have more than proven that were not tired of politics and that a good part of even your lives revolves around the 45th President of the United States Donald Trump!


At this point, you are essentially just high on a mixture of desperation and your own flatulence. >.>

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