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Posted 12/11/17 , edited 12/12/17
You forgot to add race.

If the entire United States had the same crime rate as white people in the US, the crime rate would be within Japans ballpark.


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Posted 12/11/17 , edited 12/11/17

TheZaphod wrote:

You forgot to add race.

If the entire United States had the same crime rate as white people in the US, the crime rate would be within Japans ballpark.




That isn't really true. Whites are such a strong majority that they actually influence the majority of crime statistics. While African-Americans do commit crimes at higher rates (which is largely due to centuries of socioeconomic depression...), being a minority gives them a smaller influence over the numbers.

If you want to compare the White population to Japan, you would find that whites still commit crimes at about ten times the rate of the Japanese population...
Posted 12/12/17 , edited 12/12/17

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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
'you forgot to put democrat ran cities.'

Funny how the crime rate in the rest of the country is as low as in Japan, but the cities boom crime everywhere.


Funny how both of those statements are pretty much false.
Both democrat and republican ran areas have seen a higher crime spike.
Though, national murder rates are lower than they've been since the 70's.
A good example of high murder/crime rate in a Republican city would be Chester, PA (rank #2 in the country, even higher than Chicago).
It isn't just cities with democratic mayors or representatives.
It's just a nice little narrative that the conservatives have been focused on since President Trump made waves with his statements about Chicago.

"Crime in the rest of the country" isn't as low as Japan, either.
But that's a totally different story.


On the topic of Sweden and the migrant crisis, would you like to see the Swedish government sort prevalence of certain criminal acts by ethnicity?
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Absolutely, but the chance of them doing so is close to zero as the data would completely destroy their narrative of "diversity" being good for the country.
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Posted 12/12/17 , edited 12/12/17

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On the topic of Sweden and the migrant crisis, would you like to see the Swedish government sort prevalence of certain criminal acts by ethnicity?



People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background. According to the most recent study, people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents. In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. This means factors such as parents' incomes, and the social circumstances in the area in which an individual grew up.

Source: http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/ - Section titled "Claim: "Refugees are behind the increase in crime, but the authorities are covering it up."

For now, it appears that we have reached an impasse.
Some users on this thread are claiming that the Swedish government is "covering up the statistics", while the Swedish government has stated that there have been various studies showing that socioeconomic variables are more important than race/ethnicity (which sometimes has a correlation to race/ethnicity due to circumstances and specific areas they migrate to when moving into a foreign country).
The same kind of logic is often applied to American cities (see: other thread where someone made the correlation that having a specific political party in charge of an urban area will cause more crime and violence) by some who want their narrative to be justified without any genuine evidence.
In terms of Sweden, as a country and as a government, there isn't enough evidence to support the claim that they're "hiding statistics to make sure the narrative that a melting pot/culturally diverse country is superior".
Nor is there enough evidence to support the claim that the immigrants have "taken over and are the sole source of all horrible things happening in Sweden."
It is, yet again, another narrative that has gone all the way to the top (President Trump) and his failure to acknowledge facts and evidence over "what sounds right" has allowed others to use it as a focus point.
Former President Obama has done the same in the opposite direction, so it isn't a partisan issue - it's just a "stupid people issue".
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