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Same reason as to why people in real life smoke. Do they need to?. No get over it.
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Why does it matter about smoking
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As far as I'm aware Japan never caught on with the western stigmatization of smoking, they're just representing part of their culture. The same way they represent characters getting stupid drunk, even though binge drinking is terrible for your health.
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OP is bored, huh?
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I don't see a problem with it... They are based off humans. People smoke. Just how it is & if you have that much of a problem with it you don't have to watch it...(or watch Jo Jo Bizzarre Adventure)
Posted 12/13/17 , edited 12/13/17
Because its part of the badass trademark, and its a major addiction that's prominent in human society. I would do away with the excessive cleavage and lolicon shit, but that's a whole different story.
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Idk if the OP is posting this seriously...

I hate smoking, and I can't stand it when people smoke around me. But my opinion of someone won't change that drastically if i find out they smoke (as long as they respect the fact that I don't want them to smoke around me). I also dislike alcohol, drugs, and gambling to a certain extent; all things that could harm people if they don't take/ do them in moderation. That doesn't mean I dislike the people who make the choice to consume them.

But I'll be honest with you; I honestly don't really care if an anime character smokes, or does any of those things listed above (hell, one of my favorite character's past times is drinking). Yes, you could argue that it makes a character look cooler, which in turn could influence someone to smoke (and if it does, then I'd honestly be concerned for them), but that's not exclusive to anime; there are characters whole smoke in a lot of other media that are portrayed like this as well.

And just as you said that characters who smoke don't need to smoke, it's not like their harming anyone either because it's not real any way. I know that fiction can affect reality, but in the case of smoking, I'm not really sure it could (unlike a case where you could be triggered because of a trauma of some kind e.g. rape, child abuse).

I swear people get offended by so many things these days. If you don't like it, then just don't watch it? Just let everyone else enjoy the show.

I'm sorry if this sounds like an incoherent rant but this is one of the stupidest things I've read all day.
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It's mostly used to show stubbornness in fiction nowadays I think.
A character that will do whatever s/he wants even if it's not good for them or the moral white thing to do.
It's a bad habit which paints them as rough and flawed. This also sometimes makes them more approachable for the viewer.

Sure it often correlates with "badass characters" but only because we value maladjustment as coolness more often than not.

Tbh there is no real stigma for it where I come from (germany). Even if it's outright prohibited indoors.
While it's well acknowledged by everyone that it's not healthy and every smoker will probably agree with you that it might kill her/him sooner or later and s/he should totally quit (but often won't) it's also still acknowledged as a very strong socializing tool at work or with strangers in many branches.

Mostly because smokers are often forced to spend "leisure time" with each other for example in front of the back door if they want or not. This kind of creates a common ground between them. And if they have to do this regularly they'll make sure to get along well.
Weirdly enough that makes it even beneficial for some field workers as you can shift business conversations to a new level.

It makes them very unpleasant kissers though.
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OP, I think you might like World Conquest Zvezda Plot. The MC goes on the largest anti-smoking campaign ever... while trying to conquer the world.
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Posted 12/13/17 , edited 12/13/17

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OP, I think you might like World Conquest Zvezda Plot. The MC goes on the largest anti-smoking campaign ever... while trying to conquer the world.


just by looking at a clip on youtube, I can see the MC in that show is an ass as well.

A guy politely asks if it is okay if he smokes and she physically assaults him and threatens his life.

Says more about her than it does about the smoker...
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since it's just recently become a bad thing in Japan, yes, up until now there have been little to no laws regarding smoking. such as in the states the banning of smoking in public places, restaurants, the kid in the car and so forth. it's just a culture thing, in older cartoons from the states, like Alice in Wonderland (granted we know what the dude was smoking but they are running with tobacco) and 101 dalmatians, there is smoking and these days Disney parks a rating.

does it cause people to start smoking, that's on them. if someone is going to smoke, they should blame themselves not something they see in a game, movie or cartoon. that's cliche to blame something. as for having something against it, that's on the person as well, it's a work of fiction, and, if a live action character does it, once again it's on them. you can deny rolls which require you to do something against your wishes, for those who don't, on them. yes, people die, don't pick up the habit, get the word out, only idiots smoke anyways.

to me I see no big deal about it in cartoons or otherwise, I find it a nasty habit (addiction) and I have no interest in it. it makes people look trashy and not cool one bit. but it doesn't bother me seeing it on shows, and, most cartoons show slice of life or some method of everyday life, so, yes, a chance you're going to see smoking in a Japan cartoon, or a lot of cartoons is not uncommon. I've seen it in Family Guy, American Dad, The Simpsons, Bob's Burgers, etc.
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Posted 12/13/17 , edited 12/13/17

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Lol characters are based off people. People smoke. Weird. What a concept


Pretty much this.

I don't smoke but characters who smoke don't bother me at all. In fact it makes sense and fits some characters personalities.

Same for characters who drink. I like to drink so when I see characters guzzle down a beer or enjoy a cup of sake I can relate to enjoyment they're having.
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smoking is still cool in japan
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PhantomGundam wrote:

OP, I think you might like World Conquest Zvezda Plot. The MC goes on the largest anti-smoking campaign ever... while trying to conquer the world.


just by looking at a clip on youtube, I can see the MC in that show is an ass as well.

A guy politely asks if it is okay if he smokes and she physically assaults him and threatens his life.

Says more about her than it does about the smoker...


Heh. If you're talking about Kate, she's not so much an ass as quite literally a little kid who happens to be immortal and super powerful. But still a little kid with a little kid's attitude and need to take a nap every now and then.

Zvezda is fun. I liked it. Yeah, it's got some ham-fisted social commentary in there, but eh what the hell.
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Darkwolf068 wrote:

why do fictional animated characters need to smoke? they get nothing out of it. this could be the main or a side character, when ever they need a break, or some stress relief, its not cool in real life and its not cool in fiction. should we see them doing house work, something youd never see, no its pointless. smoking kills, and my grandma died from smoking too much all her life. i mean is it really necessary for them to smoke? not at all and i wouldnt mind if that was censored, maybe blood and other things. it also seems to be a bit cliche in anime, we get it, you smoke, now get rid of it.


First, I'm sorry about your grandma. That sucks. My condolences. I've got friends and family who have lost people to lung cancer. We're raising funds for a guy at work fighting it right now. That shit isn't funny at all.

That aside, removing unpleasant things from anime or any other kind of storytelling medium won't do anything to remove unpleasant things from life. It would just set a bad precedent.

For example: I don't drink (I used to. A lot. I don't anymore). I avoid going to bars or liquor stores. I don't keep alcohol in the house. I don't tend to be interested in anime series centered primarily around drinking.

But does that mean I have the right to demand that all anime remove depictions of drinking alcohol of any kind? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. And even if I made such a demand and some magical stony cat were to grant the wish, it would only serve to make anime a lot worse, because it would be a lot less realistic, a lot less relatable, and a lot less about life.

People drink. People smoke. People do all kinds of shit, often unhealthy, and in anime they do them in ways we haven't even invented in the real world. That's how (real or fictional) life is, and I wouldn't have it any other way.


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