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Ma dudes! Roy Moore has lost his senate seat to democrat Doug Jones!


https://www.npr.org/2017/12/12/570291123/will-it-be-moore-or-jones-polls-are-closed-in-divisive-alabama-senate-election

Personally I'm as pleased as can be.


Your thoughts on this, interesting, election in Alabama?
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Hmm, interesting insight.
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Reported to get the title changed to "Roy Moore." Good ol' Roy refused to concede and I believe that is because he didn't have the balls to stand up there and talk about why he lost.
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To be fair, the seat was never Moore's to begin with.
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qwueri wrote:

To be fair, the seat was never Moore's to begin with.


It was his seat to lose... its a Republican stronghold, there is no twisting this
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Dunno why this needs its own thread instead of just being in the daily donald, but yeah, fuck Moore. It's good to see that America's tolerance for these disgusting sorts of people keeps dipping. It's just a shame that it's still at a level where such an asshole losing by such a comparatively slim margin is still considered a big victory and not just what's expected.
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Ray Moore is this generations Oliver North. If you don't know who he is, he was a former Marine who was the main figure of the Iran Contra Scandal that dominated the headlines in the late 1980's. He ended up leaving the Marines in 1988 when things got too rough on him, shredding important documents and all. . Anyway he ran for senate for the state of Virginia in 1994. A favorite of religious conservatives, they thought he would be perfect. But his past caught up to him, with even some GOP members wondering if he was electable. To make matters worse, another Virginia Republican ran for senator as an independent, not all of Virginia's GOP supported North, and they certainly wouldn't vote for his Democrat rival. North lost the race to the Democrat and he never again ran for office despite being active for a number of years as a member of the religious right.
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octorockandroll wrote:
Dunno why this needs its own thread instead of just being in the daily donald, but yeah, fuck Moore. It's good to see that America's tolerance for these disgusting sorts of people keeps dipping. It's just a shame that it's still at a level where such an asshole losing by such a comparatively slim margin is still considered a big victory and not just what's expected.


"The Daily Donald" perplexes me.
Is it a thread about Donald Trump or a thread about the Republican party as a whole?
I feel like it was originally suggested by moderators (or a subconscious community-hive mind agreement) to post everything President Trump-related there at one point and then it became the nucleus of "all things related to the US government and elections".

As for Moore, it appears that he refuses to concede and is likely going to look for a recount if Jones only wins within half of a percentage.
Currently, it looks like a full 1.5% is the difference between the two (not finalized, but at 3:36 AM EST this is what several are reporting).
We'll see how this plays out over the next few days.
I'm fairly confident that Jones won and that's the end of it; just that Moore won't take a loss sitting down, either.
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Man I remember when I used to think keeping up with national politics meant I would be a more educated - and ultimately more useful - voter.

This doesn't matter.

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koakoakoakoakoakoakoakoakoa wrote:

Man I remember when I used to think keeping up with national politics meant I would be a more educated - and ultimately more useful - voter.

This doesn't matter.



Nowadays, keeping up with national politics is (more or less) ammunition for or against one's narrative or political party.
It isn't seen as something "enlightening" or to make one more intelligent, as it's a neverending "hot topic".
Once upon a time, the vast majority wouldn't give two thoughts about politics.
Now it's a fool's errand to keep up with it and attempt to remain as objective as possible, as someone is always going to accuse you of being a liberal or a libtard or conservative or a cuck/cuckservative.

I've always been curious about politics (internationally speaking) but it's become more of a chore to dig through (insert unfathomable numerical value) articles of nonsense to get one or two sentences of truth.
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Cydoemus wrote:


koakoakoakoakoakoakoakoakoa wrote:

Man I remember when I used to think keeping up with national politics meant I would be a more educated - and ultimately more useful - voter.

This doesn't matter.



Nowadays, keeping up with national politics is (more or less) ammunition for or against one's narrative or political party.
It isn't seen as something "enlightening" or to make one more intelligent, as it's a neverending "hot topic".
Once upon a time, the vast majority wouldn't give two thoughts about politics.
Now it's a fool's errand to keep up with it and attempt to remain as objective as possible, as someone is always going to accuse you of being a liberal or a libtard or conservative or a cuck/cuckservative.

I've always been curious about politics (internationally speaking) but it's become more of a chore to dig through (insert unfathomable numerical value) articles of nonsense to get one or two sentences of truth.


For things I take an interest in, including politics, my curiosity knows no limits. It is up to me to consciously choose when to impose a limit for my own health. I agree with your heart of the matter..

I've just been burned too many times giving my all to such a system that gives nothing in return. Democracy as it is constructed is a farse. Toqueville got it right about America and Democracy in general:

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.” - Alexis de Tocqueville
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At least the current state of US politics is good for providing late night talk show hosts more material then they know what to do with
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Cydoemus wrote:
I've always been curious about politics (internationally speaking) but it's become more of a chore to dig through (insert unfathomable numerical value) articles of nonsense to get one or two sentences of truth.


A decade ago it was a topic I paid attention to with interest. Today it's alternating between a game show and a low brow sitcom. One that none of us can change the channel on. Whenever I return to Canadian politics its almost kind of surreal how, you know, normal it all is. Even at the height of the Bush era it was no where near *this* bad.

We're at the end result of 8+ years of a political party undermining the very idea of objective truth. Which is kind of terrifying when you think of it as that's the sort of thing that typically acts as a precursor to some awful shit from a historical perspective. However, unlike some sort of authoritarian coup or something, this is just chaos. There was never a plan beyond "what can we say or do to get the most power" and there certainly isn't any kind of strategy coming out of the White House.

It's just chaos.

Even if America rights the ship the aftershock's of this administration both at home and abroad are going to be felt for a generation.



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At least the current state of US politics is good for providing late night talk show hosts more material then they know what to do with


The problem is writing the jokes before the jokes become reality. >.>
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While I'm happy to see Roy Moore lose this election this is no time for celebration. I mean what would I really be celebrating? The fact that a multiple accused pedophile narrowly lost a SENATE ELECTION? The fact that it was close at all demonstrates how far we have all fallen.
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