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Post Reply Comparing Sword Art Online and Log Horizon is like comparing Kamen Rider and Super Sentai to me
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Posted 12/15/17 , edited 12/15/17
You know how Sword Art Online is built around the bad-ass soloist, while Log Horizon is instead built around the group?

That's what Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are like, as well. The only difference between these four franchises is that two of them are MMORPG anime based off of light novels, while the other two are tokusatsu superhero series. But I thought I'd compare them because Kamen Rider is built around the individual like SAO, while Super Sentai is instead built more around the group like Log Horizon.

Both SAO and Kamen Rider are built around just one hero fighting waves of minions ending with a boss or monster-of-the-week. Neither Kirito nor any of the Kamen Riders gather that many allies and instead work at their best on their own. And, for their hard work and effort against each and every monster-of-the-week, they end up winning the girl in the end. Log Horizon and Super Sentai, on the other hand, are built around multiple heroes uniting as one against a common enemy. Each member of the group -- whether it's Shiroe and his Log Horizon guild or each Super Sentai -- has a team role to play in the overall group, whether it's leadership, muscles, intelligence, or heart. And due to these roles, it would create a diverse ensemble cast of heroes dedicated to banding together as a single unit under the main-protagonist's leadership to achieve a common goal.

And this whole "individual vs. group" thing is among my favorite topics to discuss, because I enjoy looking up group dynamics and how it works, and how each individual would think and act for him/herself compared to if s/he were in a group.
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Posted 12/15/17 , edited 12/15/17
I'm not big into tokusatsu and I've only seen the SAO and Log Horizon anime, but agreed. Also, I felt as though the focus of each show was so different. I thought SAO was more action-oriented while Log Horizon was more about economics and politics.
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Posted 12/15/17 , edited 12/17/17
If you dps hard enough you can carry the team.

You cannot tank enough to save the entire team.

If you do the most damage you are dps, if you are a tank and die you are a shitty tank.
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Posted 12/16/17 , edited 12/16/17

Drewkun88 wrote:

I'm not big into tokusatsu and I've only seen the SAO and Log Horizon anime, but agreed. Also, I felt as though the focus of each show was so different. I thought SAO was more action-oriented while Log Horizon was more about economics and politics.


The "economics and politics" part of Log Horizon is another good reason I'd go to that series. Sword Art Online would have been like watching one of those 80's Saturday morning cartoons designed to sell toys, like He-Man, Thundercats, G.I. Joe, Transformers, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's nothing but a power fantasy, complete with a damsel-in-distress to constantly babysit.
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Dot hack>SAO

Your opinion=SAO's quality.

SAO is dysfunctional as both an anime and on the logical premise the entire series is based around. There's nothing that can quite compare to how poorly thought out and generally bad SAO is to any other anime, and comparing any other anime to it is insulting. SAO is in every way shape and form a failure of both an anime and a concept that people who enjoy tasteless power trips eat right up. Neither comparison you have presented make sense to me in any way shape or form, but that's just me.

I mean you do you. You're free to enjoy what you will enjoy and I am in no way implying that it has any statements on the quality of the people who enjoy it, but my goodness I couldn't stay quiet reading this. I've lurked for a long, long time and this is my first post if not second or so IIRC. I've never heard such a ridiculous thing, comparing ANYTHING to SAO is like comparing water to paper.

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Posted 12/16/17 , edited 12/16/17

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If you dps hard enough you can carry the team.

You cannot tank enough to save the entire team.

If you do the most damage you are dps, if you are a tank and die you are a shitty tank.


none of what you said made any sense..

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Alright, I'll bite, only because I am a fan of both, for very different reasons.

SAO has the potential to help ease people into anime as an artform. Many elitists will say it has some glaring pitfalls in logic and world-building, and if the point of SAO was indeed to be a supreme 'shit-some-dasterly-dan-really-did-lock-us-in-this-MMO' theme series, then well I would say it failed.

But to me, SAO helped a few of my friends on the fence about anime into the world, and now they love Log Horizon too.

Log Horizon is the bourbon of 'shit-some-dasterly-dan-really-did-lock-us-up-in-this-MMO', whereas SAO is whiskey.*

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Posted 12/16/17 , edited 12/17/17
I’m a fan of both. But I was thinking about this the other day: How popular would log horizon really be in a universe which SAO didn’t exist? It’s the trendy go to option for people looking to hate on SAO, right? Maybe I’m wrong but I’m assuming that alone brought in at least some viewers who would have passed on the show otherwise. Maybe the main question here is: Would anyone be talking about LH in 2017 without SAO?
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Posted 12/16/17 , edited 12/16/17

tgrall_345 wrote:

I’m a fan of both. But I was thinking about this the other day: How popular would log horizon really be in a universe which SAO didn’t exist? It’s the trendy go to option for people looking to hate on SAO, right? Maybe I’m wrong but I’m assuming that alone brought in at least some viewers who would have passed on the show otherwise. Maybe the main question here is: Would anyone be talking about LH in 2017 without SAO?


Log Horizon would be more or less as popular as it is. There is a very small overlap between fans of Log Horizon and fans of SAO. Fans of Log Horizon are usually also fans of .hack// which has received pretty decent popularity over the last 15 years ever since .hack//sign aired in 2002 and then the JRPG franchise took off.

Fans of SAO tend to think Log Horizon is too boring, and fans of Log Horizon / .hack think SAO is a dime a dozen harem.

If SAO was never a thing, then there would be fewer over all anime fans, but Log Horizon's fanbase would still simply be starved .hack// fans.
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Posted 12/16/17 , edited 12/16/17
Log horizon was boring. Couldn't get past episode 11. Sao is cool. People just hate on it because its overhyped, which it is. But its not as bad as they say it is.

Edit: Log horizon is also a moe anime in my opinion. So it doesn't surprise me that SAO is better.
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xxJing wrote:

Log Horizon would be more or less as popular as it is. There is a very small overlap between fans of Log Horizon and fans of SAO. Fans of Log Horizon are usually also fans of .hack// which has received pretty decent popularity over the last 15 years ever since .hack//sign aired in 2002 and then the JRPG franchise took off.

Fans of SAO tend to think Log Horizon is too boring, and fans of Log Horizon / .hack think SAO is a dime a dozen harem.

If SAO was never a thing, then there would be fewer over all anime fans, but Log Horizon's fanbase would still simply be starved .hack// fans.


That’s fair. I’m pretty circa 2010 with a couple exceptions. I appreciate the non flamey response as it wasn’t meant to be a flamey question. Outside of when it was airing I only see it mentioned as the SAO counter anime so it got me wondering that.
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Posted 12/16/17 , edited 12/17/17
OP, You're kinda scratching at the surface of what makes those two anime radically different.

Log Horizon has done a much better job at world building and establishing a setting. SAO did that for a few episodes then trailed off.

Log Horizon takes time to flesh out and develop all of its cast - even Demiqas, once only a temporary arc villain, gets surprising character development. SAO is only dedicated to Kirito, and to a much lesser extent, the people involved with him.

Both series have issues with pacing. SAO however does do a better job at keeping you entertained. LH tends to go overboard with setting up.

SAO is mainly guilty of having a shallow narrative and poor characterization: ie. plot holes (why is Kayaba once a villain and is now helping Kirito?), deus ex machina (Kirito is supposed to die when his health reached 0), a strong female lead reduced to damsel in distress (Asuna), and more. Log Horizon's primary faults are lack of action and average animation - decreased animation quality as of season 2.
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SAO had a great first season and went downhill from there

Log Horizon had a great first season and went downhill from there

To me they both suffered the same issue of sophomoritis
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Posted 12/17/17 , edited 12/17/17

nanikore2 wrote:

SAO had a great first season and went downhill from there

Log Horizon had a great first season and went downhill from there

To me they both suffered the same issue of sophomoritis


Log Horizon's problem was that it went from Satelight to Studio Deen, and the animation quality suffered greatly as a result. SAO already had some narrative problems, but goddamn did it snowball during the Fairy and Gun MMO arcs.
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Dot hack>SAO

Your opinion=SAO's quality.

SAO is dysfunctional as both an anime and on the logical premise the entire series is based around. There's nothing that can quite compare to how poorly thought out and generally bad SAO is to any other anime, and comparing any other anime to it is insulting. SAO is in every way shape and form a failure of both an anime and a concept that people who enjoy tasteless power trips eat right up. Neither comparison you have presented make sense to me in any way shape or form, but that's just me.

I mean you do you. You're free to enjoy what you will enjoy and I am in no way implying that it has any statements on the quality of the people who enjoy it, but my goodness I couldn't stay quiet reading this. I've lurked for a long, long time and this is my first post if not second or so IIRC. I've never heard such a ridiculous thing, comparing ANYTHING to SAO is like comparing water to paper.

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Posted 12/17/17 , edited 12/17/17

Commander_PonyShep wrote:

You know how Sword Art Online is built around the bad-ass soloist, while Log Horizon is instead built around the group?

That's what Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are like, as well.


And, to extend the analogy, Overlord is Redman.
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