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Posted 12/21/17

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sad to say I am a political expert and they are both slithering snakes bent on destroying America and controlling the world like most dems do, most politics want to control the world, either good or bad, some dems very bad as well as some reps. but I suppose you're right, they are different in the sense that obama used hilary and threw her under the bus to cover his own butt. and obama didn't blame a video for the death of four soldiers... oh hey you are right, they are totally different people.


I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. >.>

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niotabunny wrote:

sad to say I am a political expert and they are both slithering snakes bent on destroying America and controlling the world like most dems do, most politics want to control the world, either good or bad, some dems very bad as well as some reps. but I suppose you're right, they are different in the sense that obama used hilary and threw her under the bus to cover his own butt. and obama didn't blame a video for the death of four soldiers... oh hey you are right, they are totally different people.


Impressive, every word in that sentence was wrong.



it's actually right, though. Sad that you think you're the right one, lmao.
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koakoakoakoakoakoakoakoakoa wrote:

it's actually right, though. Sad that you think you're the right one, lmao.


Actually I know I'm right here mate, because there literally isn't a thing she said there that is true.

Let's go point by point to show you why:



niotabunny wrote:

sad to say I am a political expert


We're off to a good start here. Lucky for you I've actually interacted with political experts through my time in the university and I haven't met a single one who is A) Incapable of capitalizing B ) Abbreviating Democrats and Republicans as 'dems' and 'reps' and C) Writing sentence fragments with a vocabulary that is below a high school level. But hey, maybe it's just an off day. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt here.


and they are both slithering snakes bent on destroying America

Even Trump, for all his flaws and weaknesses, isn't bent on destroying America. It is in no interest of any politician to destroy their country unless there is something that can be assuredly gained from it. Explain to me how these wealthy politicians would destroy the country and actually gain from it without completely destroying what they've earned on their own?

And do so with primary sources thank you.



and controlling the world like most dems do,


Every way you slice it that statement is wrong.

1) All politicians control the world to an extent.

2) Democrat policy, especially when it comes to economics, stems from making it so people can't abuse the system for the most part. It's about regulation, not absolution. It's about making sure the system doesn't spiral out of control.



most politics want to control the world, either good or bad, some dems very bad as well as some reps.


This sentence refutes itself logically. She said most politics (I'm assuming it means politicians) want to control the world and then it immediately says there are good and bad on both sides. So, not most.


but I suppose you're right, they are different in the sense that obama used hilary and threw her under the bus to cover his own butt. and obama didn't blame a video for the death of four soldiers... oh hey you are right, they are totally different people.


No, as I posted in the link before, they were different on policy to a pretty big extent. Especially on foreign policy.


koakoakoakoakoakoakoakoakoa wrote:

it's actually right, though. Sad that you think you're the right one, lmao.


It's right though, right? I mean it totally is right if you spend your time running from confrontation and YouTube conspiracy masturbating your night away. Reality is great when it affirms your delusions.
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Posted 12/21/17
I suggest that you define what constitutes as destruction of a nation before you claim that others are mistaken in their beliefs. I can already see the direction this argument is headed from the get-go. She's going to make a point, and you're going to say that it's *not* destruction because destruction means something else. Your intent is clear from the beginning, especially with that irrelevant jab about "capitalization".
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dindin88 wrote:
I suggest that you define what constitutes as destruction of a nation before you claim that others are mistaken in their beliefs. I can already see the direction this argument is headed from the get-go. She's going to make a point, and you're going to say that it's *not* destruction because destruction means something else. Your intent is clear from the beginning, especially with that irrelevant jab about "capitalization".


I think you're taking on the wrong person here.

"slithering snakes bent on destroying America and controlling the world" is a fairly clear statement with two parts of which "destruction" is one. The other being the claim of nefarious intent in that destruction. If she comes back with something that doesn't live up to that than it's on her for being needlessly hyperbolic. Not on dan for refuting it.



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I did study international relations in college (by US definition) and I can say that US had always help corrupt government to kill rebels since the Cold War; the "terrorist" is a label that is been used to justify war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and human rights violation against the rebel with the "terrorist" label. The anti-terrorist campaign by US in the middle east, in some way, is a remant of their criminal practices in the Cold War.

The meeting after WW2 between US and the Western European nations is not about freedom and independance; it is about their plans to regain their colonies and commit the same war crimes as Nazi Germany (the Nazi get all their death camps and genocides from the European colonies) in the colonies. The "Communist terrorism" is used to justify colonialism, which is becoming unpopular among the European mass, and the greatest effort to regain the colonies occur in the Vietnam war. The many war crimes by US soldiers in the Vietnam war get exposed to US citizens who then become less supportive to the mass murders against the hardworking innovative "Communist terrorists" along with the support toward dictatorships that sponsor the mass murders. Despite this, the US did manage to support a highly corrupt and very oppessive tyranny in El Salvador during the 1980s after the European powers finally abandons their colonialism.

The Washington politicians can no longer justify mass murders and dictatorship in the former European colonies after the Cold War even with the "Marxist terrorism" label. The US cut off funding to their advanced intelligent gathering department from the Cold War so they depend on their middle eastern state allies for information. Due to this, the counter-terrorist allies of US in the middle east intentionally provide false information to justify murder toward innocent civilian and gain financial support despite the mass corruption of the state allies.
The article in the OP did not claim that Obama was supporting terrorist, but I would be suspicious even if the article actually did say it; the information on terrorist in the middle east is primarily obtained from corrupt governments who label any rebel as terrorist to justify state terrorism. The weapons from US that did go to the terrorist could be attributed to the corrupt local government officer instead of policies specific to Obama administration.
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i guess this is news to some people US government arming drug cartels and terrorists???

--- fast and furious operations? and who knows what other operations are there..
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Posted 12/24/17

octorockandroll wrote:

You and Rujikin must get along very well, your tendency to tell the truth, especially in this thread, is equal in its potency.


Are you even capable of making a post without dragging me into it with some passive aggression.
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Posted 12/25/17

Rujikin wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

You and Rujikin must get along very well, your tendency to tell the truth, especially in this thread, is equal in its potency.


Are you even capable of making a post without dragging me into it with some passive aggression.


Clearly I am, since makin a comparison between the posting habits of two people is not "dragging" someone into anything.
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