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Rujikin wrote:
> Forms professional gaming group with fellow addicts

> Joins in gaming tournaments

> Makes a professional career our of their gaming addiction

> Gets a fellow gaming addict wife

> Gaming is literally this man's life and getting rid of the "addiction" would ruin his life



Allow me to correct you on this one.
Someone who's a professional gamer (the odds are slim, but let's use one as an example) does not suffer from "gaming disorder".
When it comes to those in the FGC that are professionals (like Justin Wong, Mena, Punk .. to name a few), most of the costs they had to offset themselves until they were sponsored by someone.
They decide to practice for a specific amount of time (unless a new game comes out, then they go into a frenzy like most of us gamers do and play for a few hours longer than one would think to be sensible for an adult), they stream their practice sessions for additional funds (as sponsorship isn't going to pay all the bills), and usually plan out their tournament schedule in advance.

These actions, including your hypothetical scenario, wouldn't fall under WHO's classification of "gaming disorder".
An example would be:

> Starts gaming as a child
>> Experiences some sort of trauma as a child or teenager
>>> Begins to suffer from chronic depression but tries to survive in the real world with a job
>> Cannot break through own depression, starts leaning on games to get through the day
>>> Stops going to work because they believe a raid on an MMO they play is more important than some "stupid job"
>>> Stops speaking to their family because they're a waste of time, as the MMO is more important
> Gets fired from job because they're a no-show for a few days when a new expansion comes out
> Loses apartment due to failure to pay rent
> Moves back in with Mom and Dad
> Hooks up computer and starts playing MMO again, rent-free and bill-free
>> Parents become concerned because their kid is playing this MMO for 20 hours a day, refuses to speak to them (stays in room all the time), and has been stealing money to get subscription cards from 7-11
>> Parents give an ultimatum: Go to psychiatrist or GTFO
> Goes to psychiatrist
> Gets informed that they have a gaming disorder that is a symptom formed from their PTSD and Chronic Depression
> Gets behavior therapy to learn how to manage their game time accordingly without it impacting their overall life
> Starts feeling better after behavior therapy, psychiatric therapy, and (possibly) medication
> Gets a job again
> Plays MMO 2-3 hours a day, scheduling raids after work and planning time on weekends for new expansions.
> Continues with therapy while trying to avoid making gaming habit into a dependency to escape having to deal with psychiatric/emotional issues.

This is a realistic example of what "gaming disorder" would look like.
Whatever other nonsense you want to convince yourself of is pretty asinine, frankly speaking.
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/29/17

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YOU KNOW WHAT BULLLLLLLLLSHIT



Some jackass that makes people think that gamers are all fucked up people that end up committing suicide.


Oh and those fucking journalist that knows shit about videogames while saying it’s bad and gamers are just idiot that don’t do anything of their life.


This never happened though


The first one i can accept.


But you never saw a journalist that makes a topic on how bad videogames are and that gamers are aggresive scum. While knowing not sbout videogames in general.


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As soon as I heard this, all that popped in my mind was Disney, because Disney loves money




Excellent.
Excellent, indeed.
Let the hate flow through you, young padawan.
It won't be long now.





I actually legitimately have hate towards Disney, enough to want to checkmate.

How do you destroy something that can't be stopped? These are the things I think about from time to time
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I actually legitimately have hate towards Disney, enough to want to checkmate.

How do you destroy something that can't be stopped? These are the things I think about from time to time


Disney is kind of weird as a whole.
But then, as they’ve purchased 21st Century Fox, they do see far more powerful than they should be (with around 40% of all movie entertainment studios being owned by them at this point).
Though, consumers are prone to giving them more power as they put out films that consumers want to watch (Marvel Studios, for example).
I find it difficult to blame them for everything (like this topic) but I can see where paranoia may seep in after they continue to grow - like Thanos attempting to collect all of the Infinity Stones to rule the universe (ironically enough).
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Ok.
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So when Monster Hunter World and FighterZ comes out in a few weeks.....I'm going to have a health disorder?
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/29/17

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>>"Hi my name is... and I'm an addict"

>>>Meets other gaming addicts

>>>>Starts the gaming addict network.

>>>>Takes pride in said addiction.

The saga continues


> Forms professional gaming group with fellow addicts

> Joins in gaming tournaments

> Makes a professional career our of their gaming addiction

> Gets a fellow gaming addict wife

> Gaming is literally this man's life and getting rid of the "addiction" would ruin his life

WHO:



Hahaha. You mean forms the "armature" gaming group which in 5 years time gets certified status to make their title more recognised giving them the ability to dictate levels of entry in order to shed their origin :D
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I laughed when i heard about this I think a person can become hooked on gaming but like other things as well smoking, gambling etc.
the thing you need to ask yourself is are you neglecting family, your spouse, kids work if you have a job is the gaming affecting any this?

Do you stink from not bathing, is you home dirty from lack of cleaning etc. ask yourself this then you most likely have an issue.
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Here is somewhat a case of an actual "gaming" disorder. The guy went to an internet cafe and would stay there and play games for 3 days straight at times, and he ended up dying from it. This is an example of a disorder, none of this bs of anyone who plays games is "mentally ill" crap. http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/world/taiwan-gamer-death/index.html
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Ah, from the title of the thread I thought Gaming Disorder meant sucking at games. Anyone remember that guy trying to do the Cuphead tutorial? I'd class that as pathologically incapable of gaming.
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Posted 12/30/17 , edited 12/30/17

Cydoemus wrote:


Humms wrote:
I actually legitimately have hate towards Disney, enough to want to checkmate.

How do you destroy something that can't be stopped? These are the things I think about from time to time


Disney is kind of weird as a whole.
But then, as they’ve purchased 21st Century Fox, they do see far more powerful than they should be (with around 40% of all movie entertainment studios being owned by them at this point).
Though, consumers are prone to giving them more power as they put out films that consumers want to watch (Marvel Studios, for example).
I find it difficult to blame them for everything (like this topic) but I can see where paranoia may seep in after they continue to grow - like Thanos attempting to collect all of the Infinity Stones to rule the universe (ironically enough).



Disney is scared now. They will find out that their format will run dry. So they over saturate the market like Amazon and Netflix, but the funny thing about that, they don't have to create a foundation since it has just been bough out.

Since money changes everything, Disney is backed into a corner.

Your move Disney

Also video games, and Mental disorder. I don't want to derail right now


Do you really think they can fool everyone?
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Posted 12/31/17 , edited 12/31/17

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Ah, from the title of the thread I thought Gaming Disorder meant sucking at games. Anyone remember that guy trying to do the Cuphead tutorial? I'd class that as pathologically incapable of gaming.


It wasn't just some guy it was an actual game reporter that had been reporting on games for a decade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=848Y1Uu5Htk

Even a self learning AI would do better than him.
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This is fine it's for those who are addicted to the point they neglect their jobs and family or even commit suicide or hurt themselves if they can't game.
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Posted 12/31/17 , edited 12/31/17

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So when Monster Hunter World and FighterZ comes out in a few weeks.....I'm going to have a health disorder?


If you take a week off to drink will you have a drinking disorder?

No the issue is when it becomes so addicting you neglect your health and life and can't do without it.
This is just a specific form of addiction
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This is fine it's for those who are addicted to the point they neglect their jobs and family or even commit suicide or hurt themselves if they can't game.


That's all I'm saying.
From what WHO has stated, it appears that this classification is limited to those who have allowed gaming to consume their lives to an unhealthy level.
It's no different than classifications for other addictions that can cause an individual to surrender quality of life in favor of the addiction.
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