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I'm travelling abroad this winter break and I found out that one of my relatives is a big anime fan so I thought we could bond over a few episodes of our favorite anime but due to geolocking we were unable to do so using Crunchyroll. Why the fuck would geolocking apply when I paid for yearly service in the US using an american bank account? I will be one of the people to not renew my subscription as there are obviously better alternatives.
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Posted 12/28/17 , edited 1/21/18

animigs wrote:

I'm travelling abroad this winter break and I found out that one of my relatives is a big anime fan so I thought we could bond over a few episodes of our favorite anime but due to geolocking we were unable to do so using Crunchyroll. Why the fuck would geolocking apply when I paid for yearly service in the US using an american bank account? I will be one of the people to not renew my subscription as there are obviously better alternatives.


We are bound by contract with the publisher to make titles available or unavailable by territory. It does not matter where the account was created or where the payment method was issued. There is no such thing as an "US account" or a "German account", they are all the same and content availability is governed by IP2Geo.
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Posted 12/28/17
If "US accounts" existed they way you think they did then there would be a black market for them. Watch all the shows CR has with no way of being sneaky required!!!

Also what would happen if the a member bought a US membership (bought in the US with a US bank account. As you seem to think that is what would allow your complete access) and gifted it to someone from Japan? By what you are saying it should unlock shows for them which would see CR in major trouble. To the point they would loose all rights.

Geolocking goes on where you currently are not where you are from. There isn't a single streaming service anime or otherwise that doesn't follow that rule.

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Posted 12/29/17

penguincat wrote:

If "US accounts" existed they way you think they did then there would be a black market for them. Watch all the shows CR has with no way of being sneaky required!!!

Also what would happen if the a member bought a US membership (bought in the US with a US bank account. As you seem to think that is what would allow your complete access) and gifted it to someone from Japan? By what you are saying it should unlock shows for them which would see CR in major trouble. To the point they would loose all rights.

Geolocking goes on where you currently are not where you are from. There isn't a single streaming service anime or otherwise that doesn't follow that rule.



There is a movement in the EU to force streaming services to make the same content available in other EU countries while traveling as you have access to in your home countries. Though that will probably have a lot of caveats and will not give you access to more content with your account, but just lock you to what you have at home.
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Is getting a VPN an idea to go around geolocking or does CR has rules / something to block this?
From NL myself but few shows i watched before are now blocked off.
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Posted 12/30/17 , edited 1/21/18

Chaos2u wrote:

Is getting a VPN an idea to go around geolocking or does CR has rules / something to block this?
From NL myself but few shows i watched before are now blocked off.


Using a VPN to circumvent geolocation checking is a violation of the /ToS.
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eyeofpain wrote:


Chaos2u wrote:

Is getting a VPN an idea to go around geolocking or does CR has rules / something to block this?
From NL myself but few shows i watched before are now blocked off.


Using a VPN to circumvent geolocation checking is a violation of the /ToS.


If the OP were to set up a VPN endpoint on his home network and connect back to that I think he would be in one of those 'grey' legal areas since his account was being served the data to a legal territory and he would be using his own connection and hardware. In this way it would not be much different than a Slingbox or other placeshifting device

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Simply make a VPN so that it was as if you were watching from the US, don't get your panties in a knot.
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Posted 1/21/18

DigitalDeviant wrote:


eyeofpain wrote:


Chaos2u wrote:

Is getting a VPN an idea to go around geolocking or does CR has rules / something to block this?
From NL myself but few shows i watched before are now blocked off.


Using a VPN to circumvent geolocation checking is a violation of the /ToS.


If the OP were to set up a VPN endpoint on his home network and connect back to that I think he would be in one of those 'grey' legal areas since his account was being served the data to a legal territory and he would be using his own connection and hardware. In this way it would not be much different than a Slingbox or other placeshifting device



It's not grey, it's a violation of the Terms of Service for Crunchyroll, as an attempt to "Forge any TCP/IP packet header or any part of the header information in any posting or in any way use the Site or Services to send altered, deceptive or false source-identifying information": /ToS,
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eyeofpain wrote:


DigitalDeviant wrote:


eyeofpain wrote:


Chaos2u wrote:

Is getting a VPN an idea to go around geolocking or does CR has rules / something to block this?
From NL myself but few shows i watched before are now blocked off.


Using a VPN to circumvent geolocation checking is a violation of the /ToS.


If the OP were to set up a VPN endpoint on his home network and connect back to that I think he would be in one of those 'grey' legal areas since his account was being served the data to a legal territory and he would be using his own connection and hardware. In this way it would not be much different than a Slingbox or other placeshifting device



It's not grey, it's a violation of the Terms of Service for Crunchyroll, as an attempt to "Forge any TCP/IP packet header or any part of the header information in any posting or in any way use the Site or Services to send altered, deceptive or false source-identifying information": /ToS,


But a VPN isn't doing any of that. The packet recieved from Crunchyroll would come in to the endpoint, be acknowledged normally if needed, then encapsulated and sent to the destination. Any return information would come back to the endpoint, be unencapsulated and returned to Cruncyroll. Now this is a very basic description but in no area is the original packet from Crunchyroll's headers or payload altered in any way. This is more about forging fake source IPs, aka IP Spoofing, for various DoS attacks.
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