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So the east coast of the US has been experiencing record low temps thanks to this 'Polar Vortex' that has been stuck over our areas for over a week, getting as low as 6 degrees Fahrenheit around the US capital. Upon seeing this when checking the weather a few minutes ago: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/01/02/monster-storm-to-blast-east-coast-before-polar-vortex-uncorks-tremendous-cold-late-this-week/?utm_term=.1e77af5731f0 I immediately thought of the movie, 'The Day After Tomorrow' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Tomorrow , as this particular weather phenomena closely resembles the one in this movie, much like it has been for decades, scientists warn about the effects of global warming and are ultimately dismissed by the government.

You could say this very moment is History in the making before our very eyes, yet another area of science-fiction is becoming reality, while the movie depicts the most extreme situation, the parallels are far too frightening to be ignored but will be simply because changing now might be too late or simply cut into profit margins too much. This may be as bad as it gets this year, but like droughts on the west coast and excessive rain in the south eastern part of the central US, massive unrelenting hurricanes elsewhere around the world, the world climate IS changing and getting far more severe. We can't predict weather all that accurately as we continue to add more variables ourselves, past patterns are worthless to us now.

You can label this a liberal rant or whatever you like, but living for 30 years, I assure you the weather patterns I enjoyed as a child are long gone and not coming back. I only get to experience three seasons now as two no longer occur, Summer, Winter & a few days of Sprautumn.
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Well first of all, I don't think there's any reasonable basis for which to label comparing real life scientific phenomena woth science fiction. I mean unless film analysis has somehow become a partisan affair I really don't see anyone denying this connection. Some may label it as alarmist, which would be a bit more reasonable, but the whole point of speculative fiction is to make us think about possible scenarios we may face, usually as outcomes for our own actions, so it only makes sense, really.

Second, yeah, this is a pretty bad sign. Hopefully it will act as a wakeup call to climate change deniers. Sadly, like most deniers, I assume reality will be little motivation for them to change their position.
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wow wow

omggggggggg
the end of the worllldddd ahhh
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During the birth of our nation snow was a regular occurance in DC. So are we now going from global warming panic to global cooling panic? I member when it was said we were going into another ice age in the 70's then it switched to global warming. Is global cooling the in-fad now?

Or is any change in anything proof humans are causing climate change so the "scientists" are right no matter what happens.

P.S. There is a volcanic island off the coast of Africa which is very unstable. Geologists are worried that a volcanic explosion would rupture a large part of the volcano and island causing it to sink into the ocean and form a giant unstoppable tidal wave that would hit the entire eastern coast of the united states. So there is something to worry about.
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Rujikin wrote:

During the birth of our nation snow was a regular occurance in DC. So are we now going from global warming panic to global cooling panic? I member when it was said we were going into another ice age in the 70's then it switched to global warming. Is global cooling the in-fad now?

Or is any change in anything proof humans are causing climate change so the "scientists" are right no matter what happens.

P.S. There is a volcanic island off the coast of Africa which is very unstable. Geologists are worried that a volcanic explosion would rupture a large part of the volcano and island causing it to sink into the ocean and form a giant unstoppable tidal wave that would hit the entire eastern coast of the united states. So there is something to worry about.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-global-warming-harsher-winter/
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/07/global-warming-arctic-colder-winters-climate-change-spd/
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/31082015/yes-warming-arctic-means-cold-winters-elsewhere-boston-us-asia

The only link you need really is below this point: It shows how a polar vortex from melting polar caps destabilizes and effects other regions. It was published in 2014 fyi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2757831/Is-global-warming-causing-COLDER-winters-Melting-ice-destabilising-polar-vortex-study-claims.html

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You can tell by their avatar pic that they are broken in the head and beyond repair, that aside the wiki article about the movie clearly states the criticisms it received when it was released given its a work of science-fiction, why would a blatant work of fiction receive such harsh criticisms in the first place? -- It wouldn't be the fact that it depicted the most likely outcome of how global warming/climate change would be should it keep progressing as is, even if its just a worst-case scenario.

-- For the 'Aho' in the white house global warming and climate change are interchangeable terms, as the global climate changes areas will become increasingly warmer and increasingly cooler, essentially the balance of seasonal climate becomes increasingly skewed as their extreme forms become increasingly severe.

Like all things, humanity has a terrible habit of disregarding anything they can't see as false and anything they can see as misleading or inconclusive to suit their tastes... The contrast comes with any form of 'faith' they believe the words twisted by their own and only see what they choose to see as truth. An outside observer could rightly say nearly all of humanity is completely blind to the world around them so they make up what they want to see.
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Any science fiction film that boldly replicates and exaggerates controversial theories can expect harsh scrutiny. The movie showcases enough real science to encourage thorough debate from the science community, as well as enough "Hollywood science" to have its ass schooled. That is why it's been criticized so much. The sciences behind global warming/climate change are very much in their infancy, and we will continue to see disagreements even amongst their founders for years to come. The fighting doesn't conveniently end and start at partisan borders.
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Rujikin wrote:
I member when it was said we were going into another ice age in the 70's then it switched to global warming. Is global cooling the in-fad now?


This claim has been widely debunked, but it pops up every now and again in online forums.

From the American Meteorological Society's article "The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus." http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

Here is the article's abstract


Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. The integrated enterprise embodied in the Nobel Prizewinning work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change existed then as separate threads of research pursued by isolated groups of scientists. Atmospheric chemists and modelers grappled with the measurement of changes in carbon dioxide and atmospheric gases, and the changes in climate that might result. Meanwhile, geologists and paleoclimate researchers tried to understand when Earth slipped into and out of ice ages, and why. An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.
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Ya ya.

It was -17 out yesterday, driving a forklift with an exposed cab, felt like -25 with high winds.

In nothing but a thin sweater with PPE.

End of the fucking world

Please I want to see it. Please, show me world what it looks like. And what I deal with is nothing compared to other people. Fucking child's play. Some people would laugh at that.



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We're all going to die. The world is ending.

Meh.
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The climate is definitely shifting, but I don't really see how these little arctic blasts we're seeing right now are a symptom of this. As far as I know, these are not rare. And most certainly even beginning to compare this to The Day After Tomorrow makes you look incredibly silly.

Is getting down to 6F even unusual for Washington D.C.? I would be shocked if it was. In Oklahoma we hit the single digits for a low at least once nearly every winter. They should be more common up there.

The real outlier was in early 2011 where it got down to -30F in some of the Northernmost counties of the state. Now a temperature that low being experienced in Oklahoma did really *almost* feel like the apocalypse. lol Honestly, I want to see more of it, too. It kills those pesky bugs. Which have NOT been killed in recent years due to how warm the winters have been down here. That's climate change. It's not like in the Sci-fi movies. It's just that you gradually see the season of Winter erode away every year.

Where I live, it may be cold now. But I would bet it will be back up in the 60s, 70s... Heck, maybe even 80s by the end of January. That is what climate change is doing. Those temperatures used to be so rare during the winter back when I was a kid. I was obsessed with weather and recorded temperatures in my diary. In 2001 it hit 70 degrees one December day and I was so incredibly shocked by it. It was such a rarity. Now it hits the 70s regularly every winter.
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How many times has Ronald Emmerich destroyed the world now?

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if you've lived that long you'll know that weather patterns repeat. I'm tired of repeating the same old song and dance, it's not global warming. I'm leaving it at that. and the movie was good, but that's not what is happening here. welcome to winter, it's as simple as that. I have a friend who's in Australia who is enduring some record heat temps right now, but, welcome to summer. I've recently started reading Killing England, and records indicate soldiers were freezing to death in the middle of winter on guard due to it being so cold. thus, record patterns repeat, it's nothing more and nothing less. I'm tired of the phrase global warming, if anything needs to be retired is this fake agenda. stats already conclude it's not warming it's cooling.
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The real cause of global warming is Roland Enmerich releasing his steaming pile of shit movies.
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MysticGon wrote:
The real cause of global warming is Roland Enmerich releasing his steaming pile of shit movies.


The Day After Tomorrow is, sadly enough, probably the best one of his World Blows Up movies. Not that that is saying much.

The unofficial remake, 2012, was completely absurd. It was pretty much just Gaia trying to specifically kill John Cusack for 2 hours. If any of the other characters had wised up and choked him to death they could have saved the world. -.-





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